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Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by hooverd »

tansan wrote: post #459
rubicon33 wrote: post #458

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The direction the software engineering is going in with this whole "vibe coding" thing is so depressing to me. I went into this industry because I grew up fascinated by computers. When I learned how to code, it was about learning how to control these incredible machines. The joy of figuring something out by experimenting is quickly being replaced by just slamming it into some "generative" tool. I have no idea where t…

This sounds like a boomer trying to resist using Google in favor of encyclopedias. Vibe coding can be whatever you want to make of it. If you want to be prescriptive about your instructions and use it as a glorified autocomplete, then do it. You can also go at it from a high-level point of view. Either way, you still need to code review the AI code as if it was a PR.

You can take an augmented approach, a sort of capability fusion, or you can spam regenerate until it works.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by masklinn »

SkiFire13 wrote: post #453
masklinn wrote: post #422

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A generic vmm can not, but these are specific vmms so they can likely load dedicated kernel mode drivers into the well known guest to get the information back out.

The driver would still be part of the guest.

If you control both the VMM and the guest through a driver you have an essentially infinite latitude to set up communications between the two: virtual devices, iommu, interrupts, ...

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by alt227 »

spagoop wrote: post #460
rubicon33 wrote: post #458

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The direction the software engineering is going in with this whole "vibe coding" thing is so depressing to me. I went into this industry because I grew up fascinated by computers. When I learned how to code, it was about learning how to control these incredible machines. The joy of figuring something out by experimenting is quickly being replaced by just slamming it into some "generative" tool. I have no idea where t…

To be meta about it, I would argue that thinking "generatively" is a craft in and of itself. You are setting the conditions for work to grow rather than having top-down control over the entire problem space. Where it gets interesting is being pushed into directions that you wouldn't have considered anyway rather than expediting the work you would have already done. I can't speak for engineers, but that's how we've be…

Reading this post is like playing buzz word bingo!

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by iAMkenough »

alwillis wrote: post #148
crooked-v wrote: post #67

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Yes, but only if it's enrolled in MDM, bizarrely enough.

> Yes, but only if it's enrolled in MDM, bizarrely enough In education or corporate settings, where account management is centralized, you want each person who uses an iPad to access their own files, email, etc.

In home settings, where devices are shared with multiple family members, you want each person who uses an iPad to access their own files, email, etc.

Parents and spouses would appreciate if they could take the multiple user experience for tvOS and make it an option for iPadOS.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by fragmede »

tansan wrote: post #459
rubicon33 wrote: post #458

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The direction the software engineering is going in with this whole "vibe coding" thing is so depressing to me. I went into this industry because I grew up fascinated by computers. When I learned how to code, it was about learning how to control these incredible machines. The joy of figuring something out by experimenting is quickly being replaced by just slamming it into some "generative" tool. I have no idea where t…

This sounds like a boomer trying to resist using Google in favor of encyclopedias. Vibe coding can be whatever you want to make of it. If you want to be prescriptive about your instructions and use it as a glorified autocomplete, then do it. You can also go at it from a high-level point of view. Either way, you still need to code review the AI code as if it was a PR.

No, that's what's separates the vibecoding from the glorified autocomplete. as originally defined, vibe coding doesn't include the final code review of the generated code, just a quick spot check, and then moving on to the next prompt.

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Post by alt227 »

greggsy wrote: post #451
pzo wrote: post #444

I'm still a little dissapointed. It seems those models are only available for iPhone series 16 and iPhone 15 pro. According to mixpanel that's only 25% of all iOS devices and even less if taking into account iPadOS. You will still have to use some other online model if you want to cover all iOS 26 users because I doubt apple will approve your app if it will only work on those Apple Intelligence devices. Why should I…

Uptake of iPhone 16+ devices will be much more than 25% by the time someone develops the next killer app using these tools, which will no doubt spur sales anyway.

If there was a killer app for AI (sorry LLMs) then it would have come out by now and AI (sorry LLMs) would have taken off properly.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by alt227 »

resource_waste wrote: post #416
LoganDark wrote: post #321

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On Android devices with AVB (so basically everything nowadays), once the bootloader is unlocked, so many things already either lock you out or degrade your service in various ways. For example, Netflix will downgrade you to 480p, Google Pay will stop working, many apps will just straight up disappear from the Play Store because SafetyNet will stop passing (especially on newer devices with hardware attestation), banki…

This is a pretty wild take. Its reasonable to install a different OS on Android, even if some features don't work. I've done this, my friends and family have done this, I've seen it IRL. I've never seen anyone do this on iPhone in my entire life. But I flipped and I'm a Google hater. Expensive phones and no aux port. At least I can get cheap androids still.

Whats an aux port?

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by alt227 »

m3kw9 wrote: post #52
nehalem wrote: post #48

I wonder what happened to Siri. Not a single mention anywhere?

hope to show you more later this year. was like the first thing they said about apple intelligence

Which is the same as what they said last year.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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Post by alt227 »

encom wrote: post #219
bishfish wrote: post #218

I sure hope they provide an accessibility option to turn down translucency to improve contrast or this UI is a non-starter for me. Without using it, this new UI looks like it may favor design over usability. Why don’t they do something more novel and let user tweak interface to their liking?

>favor design over usability That's... kinda what Apple is famous for.

The files are INSIDE the computer!
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