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Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by InDubioProRubio »

parineum wrote: post #393
labster wrote: post #325

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The fuzziness was primarily left to bureaucrats making best guesses, without any particular agenda. Of course there would be some bureaucratic capture going on, but shame would still work. Systems work best with some sort of fuzzy logic, which is what courts and bureaucrats provide. Regulations are not supposed to be a suicide pact. What has changed here is that loyalty to the head of state is the primary determinant…

> left to bureaucrats making best guesses, without any particular agenda. That's incredibly naive. Bureaucracies have agendas either intentionally (political appointments) or organically. The corruption may be more brazen and direct under Trump but the incentives have always been there

Usually industry insiders just switch jobs directly into the bureaucracy writing the laws?

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Post by wordofx »

_heimdall wrote: post #294
matheusmoreira wrote: post #260

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There's no doubt that they could be. Just not as cheaply.

Access to raw materials may be a fundamental blocker there. I had seen stats putting China's control of certain rare earth minerals as high as 80% and products like lithium batteries as high as 97%. I don't know the industry well enough to validate that, but I couldn't find anything refuting or disproving those numbers either. If true, we very well may not be able to make them here if China were to cut off those reso…

No one can do anything in the west because you can’t mine or process anything. Countries like China have no regulations preventing the processing of raw materials.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by wordofx »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #443
close04 wrote: post #440

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His term ends in a few years. At that point he’s either replaced, maybe with the same kind of person (the US people have showed their hand with these elections), or he stays in place somehow. Are you hinting at the second scenario? Then we’ll get to see what US democracy is about, or if those people hoarding guns to fight an undemocratic or abusive government were just overcompensating, as it looks like today.

Trump’s term ends with a high probability of a Democrat being elected to clean up his mess, as happened in 2020 and 2008. He will almost certainly lose congress in the midterm unless he can somehow suspend the election (all bets are off if the constitution falls).

Democrats will win by advocating no voter id and preventing anyone watching the vote counting. Again.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by vkou »

lenkite wrote: post #456
vkou wrote: post #453

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X will happily ban you for saying 'cisgender'. But since enforcement is inconsistent and opaque it provides plausible deniability. It's much in the same vein that Putin allows a few token 'opposition' politicians to exist.

There are tens of thousands of posts with the word "cisgender" at the moment on X. So, I think this "ban" is currently only in one's febrile imagination. Putin does not allow tens of thousands of opposition politicians, so the analogy also does not hold. Its an extremely big difference from the Biden era where any post critical of the vaccine and backed up with papers was taken down pronto. This was even confirmed in…

https://www.the-independent.com/tech/x-cisgender-slur-cis-el...

> “The words ‘cis’ or ‘cisgender’ are considered slurs on this platform,” Mr Musk wrote in June.

> “Repeated, targeted harassment against any account will cause the harassing accounts to receive, at minimum, temporary suspensions.”

> The newly enforced policy, first reported by TechCrunch on Tuesday, saw some users greeted with a full-screen warning when trying to publish a post using the terms on the X mobile app.

The fact that this is arbitrarily enforced isn't exactly painting it as a haven for free speech. The only thing worse than absolute censorship (which is obvious and can be routed around) is stochastic, inconsistent censorship - which gives him and his defenders a fig leaf[1] to hide behind.

Look, maybe you prefer the new brand of censorship X has adopted. It sounds like you do. Great. But what you can't do is call it a free speech platform, while keeping a straight face.

[1] I would like to point out, as an example: that China doesn't censor the internet - you just mysteriously have your connection go to shit and drop out if you try to search for 4/15.

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Post by cosmicgadget »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #146
cogman10 wrote: post #124

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> You're exaggerating to try to make a point What am I exaggerating? > if the mob had gotten into Congress, Correct, which we have documents, conversations and even zipties which show that was the plan. > if the mob had offed Democrats Again, multiple conversations and recordings of mob members specifically saying this was the plan. > if the Republicans then rubber stamped it and didn't have their own objections Ther…

No, you’re stuck with trying to overplay how significant J6 was. Even if it was considered by the participants to be a coup, it’s irrelevant because it simply did not have the manpower, or any chance at taking out all of the branches of government to a significant degree. Even if all of Congress and SCOTUS was killed, there is a line of succession (created in case of nuclear war) which states would then follow. The c…

Are you familiar with Bush v. Gore?

Killing people wasn't necessary.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by makeitdouble »

userbinator wrote: post #402
dboreham wrote: post #371

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I think you mean: 700 different permutations of barrel plug diameter, sex and voltage?

There has been maybe two dozen different barrel plugs widely used over the last two decades, and "12V" and "20V" were already a de-facto standard for laptops with 2S and 3S batteries respectively (there was some artificial segmentation like 18.5V, 19V, 19.5V, 20V, etc. but they are all within tolerance range). I have not seen a male laptop; they are always female, being the "receiver" of the power. Search for "laptop…

That leaves out all the "what is a computer?" devices that had all sort of plugs that wouldn't be barrel: tablets, chromebooks, raspberry pi, e-readers etc.

Same for all the smaller dedicated devices (audio recorders, camera, controllers etc.)

Those didn't go the barrel plug route in the first place to allow for charging through the same port, and would have been a loophole if barrel was mandated. USB-C was honestly the only option that made sense IMHO.

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Post by cosmicgadget »

silisili wrote: post #266
Spooky23 wrote: post #27

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What did the military do on Jan 6? They stood back and did nothing. That wasn’t an actual coup because some Capitol Police had the balls to do their job and Vice President Pence is a patriot. I’m sure the next time around anyone “untrustworthy” in the police force will have been removed, and the national Guard in surrounding states will have routine training in Alaska.

People don't generally show up unarmed for a coup. I'm not sure what it was, but it surely wasn't a coup.

It was a repeat of the Brooks Brothers Riot.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by lenkite »

vkou wrote: post #465
lenkite wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are tens of thousands of posts with the word "cisgender" at the moment on X. So, I think this "ban" is currently only in one's febrile imagination. Putin does not allow tens of thousands of opposition politicians, so the analogy also does not hold. Its an extremely big difference from the Biden era where any post critical of the vaccine and backed up with papers was taken down pronto. This was even confirmed in…

https://www.the-independent.com/tech/x-cisgender-slur-cis-el... > “The words ‘cis’ or ‘cisgender’ are considered slurs on this platform,” Mr Musk wrote in June. > “Repeated, targeted harassment against any account will cause the harassing accounts to receive, at minimum, temporary suspensions.” > The newly enforced policy, first reported by TechCrunch on Tuesday, saw some users greeted with a full-screen warning when…

So, posts are NOT being banned, but only visibility tagged as that article mentions and as many users also explicitly tested. No one reported a ban - only a warning with a visibility setting. Seems perfectly fine. Your speech is NOT banned as you incorrectly claim. And your account is still valid.

Did you ever try writing a mRNA-vaccine critical post during the Biden administration on twitter, quoting factual sources and linking to scientific papers ? Your account got banned pronto.

And as we all know now - it was done at the behest of the US white house.

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