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Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by radicalbyte »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #308
radicalbyte wrote: post #233

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There's a whole pipeline designed to capture young men (Tate for the dummies, Moscow-Lex for those who aren't) who are also a key demographic here. I understand it too having seen the fallout and overstep of the "social justice left" with the reading comprehension of sewer rats - almost all American - who themselves attack white men for the crime of being white men (I've been on the receiving end a few times and I wa…

My son has seen it happen on his high school. The victims proudly proclaim to be weaponized autists. They have an outlook on life that funnels them into an incel lifestyle. If you’ve seen the Netflix series “Adolescence“ you’ll recognize that it’s downright frightening. Talk to your kids, people.

I've had that recommended to me before and it's not surprising. I was in that group myself at that age but the internet was a much nicer space. I'd break into computer systems (including USG) for the lulz. I'd get weirdos attempt grooming and hit them either with deletion scripts (deleting autoexec.bat and some key Windows files) or go full Back Orafice on them). I would take down the porn sites which kept spamming my gaming / book newsgroups.

Now those groups have been weaponised. It started on 4chan / SomethingAwful - at that time Americans were so obnoxious that we simple banned them from our gaming servers - where the ARGs were tested out and perfected. Then it was pivoted to Facebook, Youtube, Twitter and the other socials and perfected.

We should have saw this coming. I even thought to myself back then: "it's just as well that the internet was just a nerds thing because this could change society if it was used to control the great unwashed".

It looks like the evil people were also paying attention.

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Post by codingbot3000 »

usrnm wrote: post #307
dachworker wrote: post #267

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There is a weird attitude among European elites where on the one hand, they point out how European countries have always been in a subservient position within the American sphere of influence, but then, instead of cheering that this era is ending, they seem to be all upset about it and want their collar to be put back on. Help me understand this. To me it seems that maybe the interests of EU elites differ from the in…

Relying on the US for military protection allowed many European countries to save billions of their own money for years. Undoing this going to be very, very expensive and there is no good understanding where all this money is supposed come from, the main idea right now seems to be massive amounts of debt, which can get very ugly in the long run. It absolutely needs to happen, but I can clearly see why many politician…

Looking at defense spending, I do not think it saved so much money. It mostly ensured that the US would be the only major nuclear power in the West - so the "military protection" was more something like a moat for the nuclear monopoly.

And monopolies are something the US loves (think of big tech, Comcast, etc.) and the EU dislikes ;-)

With the US stepping away from its monopoly, it is only a matter of time until more European states will enter the nuclear protection market.

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Post by elric »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #325
elric wrote: post #317

Trade is the best way to maintain peace. I don't like situation one bit. International relations are souring. It's hard to imagine that this is unintentional.

It could also be that the US have a person in power who is clearly out of his element.

I find that hard to believe. There have been incompetent US presidents before. This isn't incompetence, this is strategy. Malicious strategy perhaps, but it seems very unlikely to be non-deliberate.

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Post by bantunes »

galfarragem wrote: post #98
bantunes wrote: post #78

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I see this as an absolute win - EU tech businesses get bolstered, and we no longer depend on the country that apprehends tourists[1] or denies entry to scientists because their social media has unfavorable opinions about their great leader[2]. Call it whiny, I call it common sense. [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/british-tourist-detained-i... [2] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/scientist-banned-from-e...

I will never support cancel culture. But let’s be honest, cancel culture wasn’t his invention…

Ah yes, "cancel culture" - formerly known as "consequences".

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Post by tossandthrow »

0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #417
messe wrote: post #389

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> I don't want to shoulder risk for people who despise me They don't despise you. They dislike your government. > What I don't like is the notion that the US has a special obligation to protect Ukraine. Sure, it doesn't. But you don't think that appeasing an expansionist Russia might run contrary to America's interests? > You're saying that you don't like how antitrust is practiced in the US? Why is that any of your…

>They don't despise you. They dislike your government. Then why are my comments in this thread being downvoted? I'm trying to share my perspective, and I get sarcastic replies like "Cry me a river." All of my most acrimonious arguments on HN have been with Europeans talking about transatlantic relations. There just seems to be something uniquely dysfunctional about the US/Europe relationship. From my perspective, I'm…

From your link

> Do European countries appear to perform worse than White Americans in standardized tests because of low-performing immigrants?

You are literally citing material that compares as race segregated US to other countries as wholes.

I have a lot of very smart American friends, from all across the political spectre.

I have mostly worked for us companies.

And luckily you are not representative of the average American.

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Post by ETH_start »

halper wrote: post #303
ETH_start wrote: post #186

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The US economy is now 50% larger than the EU's, as a result of this market freedom and enterprise growth.

That is definitely one measure, but it is also an economy where someone working at the restaurant in a hotel in Miami earns about one bottle of water per hour. If the bottled water is expensive or if the salary is low is a matter of perspective.

The purchasing power of the average American is much higher than the average European.

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Post by ETH_start »

rvba wrote: post #254
ETH_start wrote: post #186

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The US economy is now 50% larger than the EU's, as a result of this market freedom and enterprise growth.

USA was not impacted by WW2 (by this I mean it wasnt bombed to nothing) and 50 years of communism.

They were neck-and-neck in 2008. The gradual accumulation of regulatory restrictions limiting contract freedom, and taxes, turned the tide.

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Post by epolanski »

dmos62 wrote: post #352
epolanski wrote: post #236

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The same Sarah Paine that speaks about how China lifted 1B+ people out of poverty and created tens of millions of millionaires?

Sarah C. Paine, the professor of strategy and policy at the U.S. Naval War College. I'm not aware of what you're talking about.

That was who I was referring to as well.

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Post by pjc50 »

swat535 wrote: post #395
OvbiousError wrote: post #269

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Signalling? Talks about investing 800 billion in the military industry across the EU would have been unthinkable 4 months ago. Now they're proceeding at a speed that is staggering when you see how long these talks/processes normally take. EU cloud is certainly much discussed, and more than that. Holland for instance voted and accepted a resolution last week for more digital sovereignty. This doesn't mean we'll have a…

Obviously, this comes at a cost. I assume Europeans are willing to forgo some, maybe even most of their social benefits in exchange for increased military spending? I understand many currently enjoy fairly generous government support. If not, then will there be an even bigger increase in taxes? How does EU plan to roll this out?

Germany has altered its constitution to go into debt for this purpose.

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Post by [deleted] »

defrost wrote: post #359
tsimionescu wrote: post #331

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That only matters if Brexit was about as bad for the direct personal interests of farmers as it was for the average Brit. If farmers had it far worse after Brexit than the average Brit, then it means farmers were especially dumb for voting against their own interests.

My comment above was written in response to an earlier version of the comment above it. That original version was phrased as to blame farmers for the plight of Brexit, as if a small group who voted more or less in line with with the nation made any kind of difference. Did farmers have it far worse after Brexit than the average Brit? My understanding is the nation as a whole suffered, with the exception of well off Br…

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