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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by dowager_dan99 »

nsavage wrote: post #222
blindriver wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you…

As a Canadian living near the border (as many Canadians are!), I would often drive into the US for shopping. There are a number of towns that seem dedicated to serving Canadians, like Watertown, NY. I've found that often the US border guards would be much nicer than the Canadian border guards, probably because the Canadians are the ones that need to deal with the customs rules (Canadians aren't trying to smuggle thei…

don't forget a sub-70 cent dollar. Pretty rough to pay that sort of premium and THEN maybe GST and duty on your purchases. It's not the same as a generation ago when you had to go to the US to get their chocolate bars...

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by refurb »

Gigachad wrote: post #13

Governments need to start putting out travel warnings on the US. It’s becoming an increasingly dangerous place to visit.

They should put travel warnings on every country then.

The woman in question tried to self-sponsor a TN visa after being denied earlier at the Canadian border. I can understand why USCBP starts to think “this woman is trying to commit fraud” not “innocent mistake”.

I know most countries would detain and deport people attempting to commit immigration fraud.

Not sure why people should hold the US to a higher standard than other countries.

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Post by kragen »

Etheryte wrote: post #138
ttyprintk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was an interesting prelude: once the flight restrictions were lifted after 9/11, the FBI packed up 140-160 relatives of Osama Bin Laden living in USA and quietly flew them out of the country.

This sounds odd, how does someone even have 140-160 relatives who are alive?

His father had 22 wives† and 52 children: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_bin_Ladin

Many of them are wealthy business owners.

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† Not simultaneously: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygyny_in_Islam

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by mandmandam »

ta1243 wrote: post #294
mandmandam wrote: post #167

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No, sorry, you don't get to declare moral superiority because people refused to vote for a candidate who promised to keep arming genocide. "The lesser genocide" is an incredibly weak campaign pitch, and that was proven. Everything Trump has done, from rearming Netanyahu, to allowing more bombing during a ceasefire, to making efforts for ethnic cleansing was initially proposed/endorsed by Biden; and Harris had promise…

I'm not declaring anything, I'm just observing outcomes.

"Well done" ... "I hope they're happy" ...

In case you weren't aware, that language isn't coming across as super-observational and not smug.

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Post by codexb »

stewx wrote: post #4

My takeaway from this is that laws and rules don't matter if the officials on the ground are incompetent, ignorant, and have contempt for you. There is a lot of unnecessary cruelty and lack of due process in this story.

The San Diego port of entry is the busiest land border crossing in the western hemisphere. The takeaway here should be that the resources to handle immigration along the southern border are insufficient.

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Post by jeromegv »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #346

I have a close relationship with a Chinese national that is going through the US immigration process. His view on situations like this are enlightening. He knows the difference between true dictatorships and political wranglings in the news. No system is perfect, and bad things happen to good people every day. In this circumstance, it looks like this person didn't follow all the appropriate rules related to the enter…

She was refused to enter the US, which is fine, this is the US rights to deny if you don't follow due process. But she didn't try to hide it or overstay her visa, she was coming through the border and was forthcoming about applying for the visa.

But instead of sending her back, they put her in jail for 2 weeks. Could have been longer without media attention. There was no process for her, once within the walls, to get herself out.

> Why should the expectations of foreigners in US be different from every other country in the world?

Are you telling me this is common in any other country in the world to be denied entry and then put in jail instead of just be sent back?

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Post by apwell23 »

I-M-S wrote: post #147
apwell23 wrote: post #51

> There were around 140 of us in our unit. Many women had lived and worked in the US legally for years but had overstayed their visas – often after reapplying and being denied. They had all been detained without warning. Yet they chose to feature this white person from a white country. This article reminds of beginning of ukraine war when US press was showing white ppl and saying "we need to stand with them because t…

I am a dual-nation Canadian, with the other nationality held in much lower regard by the USA administration, meaning American conduct toward much of the world is not news to me. I believe a lot of resentment Canadians currently feel towards Americans boils down to being treated the way they treat any other undesirable country.

> I believe a lot of resentment Canadians currently feel towards Americans boils down to being treated the way they treat any other undesirable country.

yeah you nailed it perfectly. "how dare you deny us white status"

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Post by motorest »

Aspos wrote: post #305
jcranmer wrote: post #241

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> However, the US has long been very clear: constitutional rights only apply to citizens. Nope, most of the constitutional rights apply to all people under the jurisdiction of the US. It's why the Bush administration set up Guantanamo--to try to evade any hint of constitutional protection, and he still failed that. (Of course, as Guantanamo also shows, the remedies available to people whose constitutional rights have…

> constitutional rights apply to all people Not within 100 miles of the border unfortunately. https://www.aclu.org/documents/constitution-100-mile-border-...

> Not within 100 miles of the border unfortunately.

Taken from your link:

> In practice, Border Patrol agents routinely ignore or misunderstand the limits of their legal authority in the course of individual stops, resulting in violations of the constitutional rights of innocent people. These problems are compounded by inadequate training for Border Patrol agents, a lack of oversight by CBP and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the consistent failure of CBP to hold agents accountable for abuse. No matter what CBP officers and Border Patrol agents think, our Constitution applies throughout the United States, including within this “100-mile border zone.”

It seems that non-US citizen still have rights, but abuse is rampant within the US border patrol.

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