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It's not good news when this competition comes at cost of a gigantic over inflated bubble, in which all the big players keep on sucking billions from investors without even having a business model. This hype will burst sooner than later and will trigger yet another global recession. This is untenable.
I think business model there pretty simple: to be in the front line when AI will go into the category of landscape-changing trillion dollar technologies. And investors keep pouring their billions exactly for that business model. >This hype will burst sooner than later and will trigger yet another global recession. It seems to small of bubble for global recession. I mean if it is a bubble at all, there is all the reas…
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#462Grok has gotten to the top of one benchmark: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1891706264800936307 It's been said before but it is great news for consumers that there's so much competition in the LLM space. If it's hard for any one player to get daylight between them & the 2nd best alternative, hopefully that means one monopolistic firm isn't going to be sucking up all the value created by these things
It's not good news when this competition comes at cost of a gigantic over inflated bubble, in which all the big players keep on sucking billions from investors without even having a business model. This hype will burst sooner than later and will trigger yet another global recession. This is untenable.
This lame HN trope of LLMs having no business model needs to die.
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There are just more regulations to comply with before a release. OpenAI's new Deep Research tool wasn't originally available in the EU either, but it was released less then a week after it came out in the US. Since the EU is a gigantic market with a lot of buying power and this release makes a strong case for people to switch over from competitors, I doubt it'll take long.
> There are just more regulations to comply with before a release. If you do collect personal data and do funky stuff with it. Another approach would be to not collect that personal data until you have the right process in place, and basically be regulation-compatible out-of-the-door on day one.
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I'm very sorry if this isn't the case, but this message really feels LLM-written.
It’s gracious of you to say that you’d be sorry, and I did run my comment through 4o (perhaps ironically) which caught a slew of typos and weird grammar issues and offered some improvements. But the robotic sound and anything else you don’t like are my own responsibility. Do you, perhaps, have any thoughts on the substance of the comment?
- The fact you're glazing AI so much means you probably uses it, it's like how it was with crypto bros during all the web3 stuff
- Lack of any substance, like, what does that post say? It regurgitates praises over the AI, but the only tangible feature you mention is the fact it can receive an URL as it's input
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Naive question from a bystander , but since DeepSeek is open source and is on par with o1-pro (is it?), shouldn't we expect that anybody with the computer power is capable to compete with o1-pro?
You'd still need a fairly large amount of compute power to be able to run DeepSeek R1 locally, no?
Of course this is for a personal instance, you'd need a much more expensive setup to handle concurrent users. And that's to run it, not train it.
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#466Off topic, but just in case: is there a good reference on how people actually use LLMs on a daily basis ? All my attempts so far have been pretty underwhelming: * when I use chatbots as search engines, I'm very quickly disappointed by obvious hallucinations * I ended up disabling github copilot because it was just "auto-complete on steroids" at best, and "auto-complete on mushrooms" at worst * I rarely have use cases…
Stop using Google search and use an AI. No more irrelevant results, no more ads. No more slop to wade through.
BTW I find Claude is great at making graphs and diagrams. If you pay ($20) you can hook it up to a local code base.
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#467Off topic, but just in case: is there a good reference on how people actually use LLMs on a daily basis ? All my attempts so far have been pretty underwhelming: * when I use chatbots as search engines, I'm very quickly disappointed by obvious hallucinations * I ended up disabling github copilot because it was just "auto-complete on steroids" at best, and "auto-complete on mushrooms" at worst * I rarely have use cases…
* Figuring out where to start when learning new things (see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43087685>)
One way I treat LLMs is as a "semantic search engine". I find that LLMs get
too many things wrong when I'm being specific, but they're pretty good at
pointing me in a general direction.
For example, I started learning about OS development and wanted to use Rust. I
used ChatGPT to generate a basic Rust UEFI project with some simple
bootloading code. It was broken, but it now gave me a foothold and I was able
to use other resources (e.g. OSDev wiki) to learn how to fix the broken bits.
* Avoiding reading the entire manual It feels like a lot of software documentation isn't actually written for real
readers; instead being a somewhat arbitrary listing of a program's features.
When programs have this style of documentation, the worst case for figuring
out how to do a simple thing is reading the entire manual. (There are better
ways to write documentation, see e.g. )
One example is [gnuplot](http://www.gnuplot.info/). I wanted to learn how to
plot from the command line. I could have pieced together how to do it by
zipping around the
[gnuplot manual](http://www.gnuplot.info/docs_5.4/Gnuplot_5_4.pdf) and building
something up piecewise, but it was faster to instruct Claude directly. Once
Claude showed me how to do a particular thing (e.g. draw a scatter plot with
dots intstead of crosses) I then used the manual to find other similar
options.
* Learning a large codebase / API Similar to the previous point. If I ask Claude to write a simple program using
a complex publicly-available API, it will probably write a broken program, but
it won't be *completely* bogus because it will be in the right "genre". It
will probably use some real modules, datatypes and functions in a realistic
way. These are often good leads for which code/documentation I should read.
I used this approach to write some programs that use the
[GHC API](https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc). There are hundreds of
modules, and when I asked Claude how to do something with the GHC API it wrote
relevant (if incorrect) code, which helped me teach myself.
* Cross-language poetry translation My partner is Chinese and sometimes we talk about Chinese poetry. I'm not very
fluent in Chinese so it's hard for me the grasp the beauty in these poems.
Unfortunately literal English translations aren't very good. We've had some
success with asking LLMs to translate Chinese poems in the style of various
famous English poets. The translation is generally semantically correct, while
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It's not good news when this competition comes at cost of a gigantic over inflated bubble, in which all the big players keep on sucking billions from investors without even having a business model. This hype will burst sooner than later and will trigger yet another global recession. This is untenable.
ChatGPT is literally generating billions in revenue. Cursor is the fastest growing company of all time. This lame HN trope of LLMs having no business model needs to die.
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I'm very sorry if this isn't the case, but this message really feels LLM-written.
Its because of the em dashes (- is a normal dash, — is an em dash). Very few real people use those outside of writing books or longform articles. There's also some strange wordings like "back-pocket tests." It's 100% LLM generated. What is much scarier is that those "quick reply" blurbs on Android/Gmail (and iOS?) will be able to be trained on your entire e-mail and WhatsApp history. That model will have your writing…