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Yes it does: "fully sub-licensable (through multiple tiers)"
Licensing implies getting CL's authorisation
And CL refusing in this case is in the user's benefit, how?
Craigslist Suing Padmapper
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Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper
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Craig is doing things right: he is not greedy and he doing it with vision of general purpose. If craiglist is run by a person who investors like to choose as a founder they will be sold for 10M a long time ago. The problem with a lot of startups in SV is that their only objective is to make money. Nothing else. Craigslist is very very rare exception. Now lets downvoting starts...
Flogging yourself doesn't make you righteous. Doing good for the world does. Craigslist wastes several human lifetimes worth of time every month through maintaining a monopoly product with a shitty UI and refusing to let anyone innovate on top of it. They hold back progress and they are evil. They are the IE6 of classified ads.
> They hold back progress and they are evil. They are the IE6 of classified ads.
That's a good one. I'm going to start using it. (Unless you make copyright objections.)
Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper
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That is not what the Righthaven court said. Righthaven did not have a copyright, it had a "right to sue" on behalf of the original copyright holder's copyright. The court deemed that insufficient to give Righthaven grounds to enforce the copyright, because Righthaven did not have any copyright or license therein . A right to sue is not considered a "copy right" because it involves no right to copy the material (i.e.,…
The judge in the Righthaven case said this... "Because the SAA (lawsuit contract) prevents Righthaven from obtaining any of the exclusive rights necessary to maintain standing in a copyright infringement action, the court finds that Righthaven lacks standing in this case," Craigslist ToS doesn't grant them exclusive rights, thus by that judge's definition they don't have standing to sue.
>Craigslist ToS doesn't grant them exclusive rights, thus by that judge's definition they don't have standing to sue.
That is not what the judge is saying. By "exclusive" rights he does not mean wholly exclusive in the colloquial sense (i.e.,, sole person with such rights); the judge meant "exclusive" in the legal sense that Righthaven could exclude non-licensees from using such rights.
Re: Craigslist Suing Padmapper
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People could always post to padmapper...directly. Or sell on Ebay...Or post it to the various subreddits...Or to local newspaper's community boards... There is nothing forcing people to use Craiglist. They are not a monopoly, nor do they act like one.
Just because they have competitors doesn't make those competitors viable. Apple and Linux still existed when Microsoft was prosecuted by the DOJ. The vast majority of people searching classified ads are searching craigslist, therefore if you're trying to list something in a classified ad, you're forced to use craigslist. Sure you could use another service, but Netscape could have also just sold browsers only to Linux…
But Microsoft largely escaped the DOJ antitrust case because of competition with Apple. (MS invested in Apple to retain a competitor.)
People aren't really forced to use craigslist. That the vast majority of people choose to search CL isn't good enough. Another company could spend whatever it takes to get people to search their classifieds instead. As long as CL can't or doesn't block that (in contrast to stuff MS was doing that started the DOJ case against them), the competition is viable.