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Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by arghwhat »

cztomsik wrote: post #429
epcoa wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Missing damage tracking, always painting everything (even when the window is a full 4k monitor), Out of curiosity, what GPU accelerated terminal does this.

+1, no idea. But maybe to add a little bit of context, "damage tracking" means for example, that if there is any ongoing animation (like a spinner), then only a small part of the screen will be re-rendered (with proper vertex-time scissors, so only relevant pixels will be computed). I am not sure if it makes sense in the context of a terminal emulator, but it's certainly a big issue for any non-toy GUI toolkits. GPUs…

No, damage tracking is important as it about reporting that you only updated that spinner, which means that your display server also knows to only redraw and repaint that area, and in turn that your GPU knows during scanout that only that area changed.

Without, even if you only redrew your spinner, your display server ends up having to redraw what might be a full screen 4k window, as well as every intersecting window above and below until an opaque surfaces are hit to stop blending.

Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by balou23 »

sambeau wrote: post #452
mitchellh wrote: post #48

Ghostty got a lot of hype (I cover this in my reflection below), but I want to make sure I call out that there is a good group of EXCELLENT terminals out there, and I'm not claiming Ghostty is strictly better than any of them. Ghostty has different design goals and tradeoffs and if it's right for you great, but if not, you have so many good choices. Shout out to Kitty, WezTerm, Foot in particular. iTerm2 gets some ha…

I love this page in your docs: https://ghostty.org/docs/about Clear, friendly, modest, respectful and with the right balance of detail vs overview. Congratulations on your launch.

I'm not sure why they couldn't put that on the front page. Or at least on the front page of the documentation.

As it stands now, the front page is pretty useless if you never heard of ghostty. It's a ghost in a terminal? And there's tty in the name.... so is it a program to show ghosts in your terminal?

Re: Ghostty 1.0

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onli wrote: post #347
samatman wrote: post #219

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WezTerm has emulated tabs, not OS-native tabs. Some people will find that to be enough to suit their needs. Others will want 'real tabs'. For example, I can select a tab in Ghostty, pull it out into its own window, and then stick it into another window. This doesn't work in WezTerm, nor can you drag them around to rearrange them (keyboard shortcuts allow this however).

I'm honestly not sure what a OS native tab is supposed to be, on Linux. And I do not see why "emulated tabs" of WezTerm couldn't just do the actions that you describe. The Firefox tabs do after all, and they do not look like they are built according to some (GTK?) tab standard (GTK.Notebook?). I'm pretty sure that X11 does not have native tabs, while some window manager do. Is there a linux standard I'm just not awar…

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Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by [deleted] »

onli wrote: post #347
samatman wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WezTerm has emulated tabs, not OS-native tabs. Some people will find that to be enough to suit their needs. Others will want 'real tabs'. For example, I can select a tab in Ghostty, pull it out into its own window, and then stick it into another window. This doesn't work in WezTerm, nor can you drag them around to rearrange them (keyboard shortcuts allow this however).

I'm honestly not sure what a OS native tab is supposed to be, on Linux. And I do not see why "emulated tabs" of WezTerm couldn't just do the actions that you describe. The Firefox tabs do after all, and they do not look like they are built according to some (GTK?) tab standard (GTK.Notebook?). I'm pretty sure that X11 does not have native tabs, while some window manager do. Is there a linux standard I'm just not awar…

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Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by wongogue »

onli wrote: post #347
samatman wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WezTerm has emulated tabs, not OS-native tabs. Some people will find that to be enough to suit their needs. Others will want 'real tabs'. For example, I can select a tab in Ghostty, pull it out into its own window, and then stick it into another window. This doesn't work in WezTerm, nor can you drag them around to rearrange them (keyboard shortcuts allow this however).

I'm honestly not sure what a OS native tab is supposed to be, on Linux. And I do not see why "emulated tabs" of WezTerm couldn't just do the actions that you describe. The Firefox tabs do after all, and they do not look like they are built according to some (GTK?) tab standard (GTK.Notebook?). I'm pretty sure that X11 does not have native tabs, while some window manager do. Is there a linux standard I'm just not awar…

They mean that WezTerm doesn’t use the tab widgets of the platform’s first-party UI tookit.

AppKit/SwiftUI on macOS and GTK/Qt on Linux.

Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by [deleted] »

fishgoesblub wrote: post #328
mitchellh wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get pixel perfect bitmap fonts by using their TrueType conversions and using fractional point font sizes. There are dozens of bitmap enthusiasts that were in the beta and they're totally convinced because well... it's pixel identical. I've noted before in issues I'm open to supporting bitmap fonts if someone contributes it, but not interested in adding it myself. The workaround above is very good.

When using the original Terminus font failed, I tried the TTF version (Terminess) which in VSCode at specific point sizes is crisp and sharp. But with Ghostty, it was blurry and hard to read. At that point I gave up trying.

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Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by TheSmoke »

BoingBoomTschak wrote: post #159
fishgoesblub wrote: post #22

I initially scoffed when I read "platform-native UI" as I've found programs made in Electron typically proclaim something similar when they are anything but native, so when I saw it used GTK for Linux (SwiftUI for MacOS) my interests were piqued. Always fun to mess around with new terminal emulators. edit: alas, it doesn't support bitmap fonts..

Thanks for this post, first thing I did was search "bitmap" in the thread. If I can't use Terminus (+Unifont fallback), it's not for me.

fyi, I have just tried Unifont and worked perfectly.

Re: Ghostty 1.0

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Post by jwr »

It's the first terminal app that made me switch from Terminal.app on my Mac. It gets basically everything right, and doesn't try to have every feature. Fantastic work, thank you!
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