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What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

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I feel like I've ripped off the bandaid for a few weeks now and I'm left with a 'now what?' feeling. I'm stuck trying to think of ways we can bring the temperature down and bring us back to being a civil society.

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Keeping a lot of the incriminating evidence on him (including, it seems, the jacket) can't be a careless mistake (in my opinion). So what are some of the possible reasons? - He committed the crime and had another target in mind - He committed the crime and really didn't think he'd get away with it so he kept it to keep some unknown options open. - He committed the crime and didn't want any doubt that he was guilty wh…

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More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

Part of the reason we established courts was to avoid angry mobs dispensing justice, but we've let the courts become captured to a large extent. If you don't allow folks to seek justice in the courtroom, they'll inevitably return to "the jungle" so to speak. It's our job as participants in society to do our best to avoid that, but we have to make changes. We can't be idle and wring our hands saying "it can't be helpe…

How do we change this?

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Exactly my thoughts as well. Every piece of evidence law enforcement has was basically intentionally provided by him. If he just stuffed his trash in one of his 7 pockets, or wore a pair of sunglasses, or didn't actually stare straight at the camera in the taxi like he was getting his school picture taken? I mean pretty much the only thing he failed to do was leave his business card at the crime scene.

It would be interesting to see if he's banking on jury nullification being within the Overton window...

The judge, prosecution and defense get to vet each juror by asking them about their beliefs and biases. They can reject jurors if they believe the juror is unable to hear a case without being impartial. Jurors (often) won't be told the details of the case they'll be hearing while they're being vetted, only the basic details (e.g. defendant is a white male accused of murdering another white male).

In extremely high profile cases like the ones featuring Donald Trump, courts focus on selecting jurors who can remain fair and impartial despite their knowledge of the case or their own personal opinions. They'll go through extensive vetting which can include written questionnaires, interviews, oral questioning about their media consumption, their political beliefs and potential biases, and so on.

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The only part I don't get now is the cell phone I assumed he had some help with the timing via the burner phone But this all looks very lone wolfish now

I still don't get how he knew where the guy would be

If you're a shareholder you get a postcard in the mail with the time and address of public meetings.

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I don’t think so, per article: He "became quiet and started to shake" when asked if he had recently been to New York, according to the criminal complaint filed in Pennsylvania. Being smart can lead to arrogance, which leads to stumbles. like carrying evidence, dining in public, etc.

I doubt he was arrogant. I think he was on the run and didn’t have any place to put away the evidence. Probably homeless this whole time. And had to go to get food at some point.

It's been several days, he had plenty of time to wipe stuff down and dump it. I don't think this is arrogance necessarily, perhaps isolation and paranoia.

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His x posts read like he was on an adderall bender. I wouldn't be surprised if he went into psychosis after losing a lot of sleep and never really got back to stability. Adderall and a passion rabbit-hole like societal change are a dangerous combination. The more deep you dive, the more disinterested people become with you, and the more disconnected you become with other people.

i don't know how it is on adderall but he posted like, once a week, and they often are just retweets.

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If he planned to go after others he'd still need that gun, and he might have needed the IDs to get to his next target.

Even if this were the case, I think that the fake ID would no longer be helpful to him once investigators were aware of it. I'd assume that scanning it anywhere would set off some alarms.

> I'd assume that scanning it anywhere would set off some alarms

I'd be worried about that too, but certainly better than using his actual ID. I've never tried, but I'm guessing it's not easy to get good fakes on short notice in strange cities and lots of people these days demand ID, even just to get a room for the night.

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He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

> seems he wanted to be found

He was presumably en route somewhere. Disposing of a fake ID such that forensics can’t get anything useful off it isn’t easily done on the run / incognito. (And if his inspiration is the Unabomber, he presumably had more targets.)

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