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New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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Post by drawkward »

bloomingkales wrote: post #441
drawkward wrote: post #427

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the current definition of progressivism It's a fairly pro-business paper, certainly not very critical of Israel, and you appear to have completely missed all of its somewhat trans-skeptical reporting and opinion. (The latter pervasive enough to rankle many of its own employees about the tone and tenor of NYT coverage of trans issues.)

I want to believe you, but my hunch is your reply is similar to someone suggesting "Well, you see, you forgot all the pro liberal coverage that Fox News has been doing all year". Does NYT not have a reputation or am I truly out of touch here? I went through some of their podcasts recently and it's all quite one-sided, for example.

I think the paper is generally lib-left, but not necessarily progressive-left. I also see NPR as pretty centrist reporting.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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Post by axus »

bko wrote: post #447
quandrum wrote: post #408

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No, I want management to develop a system to determine who is low-performing, document when those workers don't meet the standards of performance, and reference those documents when they fire someone. It's just asking for due process.

This sounds good, but in my experience bad employees were known to everyone. It was difficult to pinpoint exactly why they were bad or toxic, but pretty much everyone agreed. If you gave them some benchmark they would need to hit (e.g. close tickets, be on call, etc), they would be able to do so. So creating a documentation trail is difficult, especially if its based on people saying they don't think he does good wor…

It's like the unpopular, friendless kids in high school, you just know. And there's nothing they can do to change it.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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Post by Eumenes »

aliasxneo wrote: post #435
code_for_monkey wrote: post #396

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this is just racism

Interestingly, this comment can be interpreted both ways. The act of pushing people through a lower barrier based on their race can be inferred as racist, or the claim that such a thing is happening can also be inferred as racist. I spent eight years at Google, starting long before these DEI mandates came in (and did over a hundred interviews during that period). I think the person you're responding to is being sensa…

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Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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Post by tacticalturtle »

lupusreal wrote: post #418

The NYTimes journalists are also unionized; they should sympathy strike. Excellent time for their strike too; they've got a good sense of strategy.

They can’t - they agreed to a no strike clause in their contract.

https://www.threads.net/@astor.maggie/post/DB813Z2RNBs

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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Post by gosub100 »

calibas wrote: post #431

Why would anybody trust a NYT article about internal drama at the NYT? Does HN not understand bias? Compare the NYT article to other reporting, and you can see the difference. There's a few things the NYT forgot to mention, like the fact that these negotiations have been drawn out for 2 years now. Or this: "Throughout the bargaining process, Times management has engaged in numerous labor law violations, including imp…

Don't assume we all trust what we read. Some of us like pointing out subterfuge or bias.

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Post by ForHackernews »

csallen wrote: post #448
lucianbr wrote: post #372

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As if only low-performing coworkers would be terminated. The total freedom of the company to terminate anyone any time for any reason or no reason is extreme, and now we are pivoting to the other extreme. Funny how that happens.

Why is that extreme? If you own a company, why shouldn't you be able to fire someone at any time? If you work a job, why shouldn't you be able to quit at any time? I don't think it's great that our society tries to treat work like it's family, and jobs like they're some guaranteed long-term relationship. It sets people up with the wrong expectations. Your company will lay you off or fire you once they run out of mone…

You're asking why it's bad that your owners can take away your livelihood on a whim without any reason?

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Post by drawkward »

FredPret wrote: post #422
drawkward wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is this legendary employer who instantly hires all takers, no questions asked?

The actual development of capitalism around the world has shown that when business is thriving, there tends to be lots of employers willing to mop up any excess labour. We’ve seen a ton of automation and offshoring for centuries now but employment around the world just keeps improving.

And yet, we have a positive unemployment rate!

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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Post by ForHackernews »

infecto wrote: post #45

Just cause feels like a stretch. Is that common in a lot of employment contracts? Feels like one of those rules that sounds like it could make sense but in reality it does not play out and you get this weird cohort of unproductive employees that you can never get rid of.

> Is that common in a lot of employment contracts?

It's a legal requirement in many parts of the world.

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Post by lallysingh »

sonthonax wrote: post #445

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This is also Tech in NYC. The average salary ($190k) is low for that market, so they're asking for an easier work-life balance.

Why they have 600 people is a question for management, no?

Kafka's not exactly hard to set up, especially for simple configs for low event rates. The justification from the link you posted:

  > On the other side we have a wide range of services and applications that need 
  > access to this published content — there are search engines, personalization 
  > services, feed generators, as well as all the different front-end applications, 
  > like the website and the native apps. Whenever an asset is published, it should 
  > be made available to all these systems with very low latency — this is news, 
  > after all — and without data loss.

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Post by sealeck »

calibas wrote: post #431

Why would anybody trust a NYT article about internal drama at the NYT? Does HN not understand bias? Compare the NYT article to other reporting, and you can see the difference. There's a few things the NYT forgot to mention, like the fact that these negotiations have been drawn out for 2 years now. Or this: "Throughout the bargaining process, Times management has engaged in numerous labor law violations, including imp…

@dang would it be better to change the link to an article from another (reputable) newspaper?
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