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Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by sangnoir »

TomatoTomato wrote: post #453
sangnoir wrote: post #434

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> I think this easily beats any sort of desktop PC you can buy at that price (let's exclude custom builds, they're not the same market). This is squarely in the NUC/SFF/1l-pc territory, and there is plenty of competition here from Beelink and Minisforum. I just found the Beelink SER7 going for $509, and it has an 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 CPU, 32GB DDR4. The 8845 in the beelink is very competitive[1] with M4 (beaten,…

Where can you get 2x128gb sodimms?

Crucial.com is my go-to, but you can also get them from Amazon.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by echoangle »

eastbound wrote: post #414
_mlbt wrote: post #397

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It’s a desktop, so plugging in a USB external hard drive isn’t too painful or expensive.

Dockers can’t run off external drives.

This doesn’t seem to be true, and I don’t even get what it would change if it were true. Developers aren’t the target demographic of the base version with low storage.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by rootusrootus »

ChumpGPT wrote: post #446
e63f67dd-065b wrote: post #330

With educational pricing this thing starts as $500, and at 16GB of RAM (finally) I think this easily beats any sort of desktop PC you can buy at that price (let's exclude custom builds, they're not the same market). I think this just became the go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop computer of any kind. In fact I might buy one for my parents right now to replace the old mac mini the…

>I think this just became the go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop computer of any kind. Perhaps you should check out some Beelink and GMKTec Mini PC Systems.

Then you have to factor in supporting those systems, because you will be the one they call. This is one of the major upsides to family & friends buying Macs.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by throwaway48476 »

e63f67dd-065b wrote: post #330

With educational pricing this thing starts as $500, and at 16GB of RAM (finally) I think this easily beats any sort of desktop PC you can buy at that price (let's exclude custom builds, they're not the same market). I think this just became the go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop computer of any kind. In fact I might buy one for my parents right now to replace the old mac mini the…

It's only a good deal so long as you don't pay for any of the extortionate upgrades.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by throwaway48476 »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #452
goosedragons wrote: post #416

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There's still good deals in mini PC land. Yes, the M4 is faster but there's loads of mini PCs with decent CPUs, 32GB RAM and a 1TB of SSD storage for under $600. I think for a lot of people for basic usage they'll get more value out of the larger and upgradable SSDs than the faster CPU. https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-5700U-Displays-Computers-Emul... https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-SER5-Desktop-Computer-Graphic...

BOSGAME and Beelink... who makes the motherboards? Nice size. The Beelink has better reviews. Any name brands?

They're OEM's. They're becoming name brands if you're the kind of person that follows micro PCs.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by rootusrootus »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #420
timeon wrote: post #390

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> With educational pricing I think this easily beats any sort of desktop > go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop Can anybody get it with educational pricing?

If you enroll in a college.

Or if you are parent to a student, including when the student is homeschooled. Or if you are a teacher.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by echoangle »

zemvpferreira wrote: post #377
bufferoverflow wrote: post #373

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It's not really reasonable to compare prices of a used machine with a new one though.

Why not? As long as you discount the price of the new product by the perceived value of new vs used, that’s the correct comparison to make. If a used product is the same quality and $100 cheaper, and just having something that’s new is not worth $100 to you, you should pick the used option. The goal is to get the best value per money spent.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by birdgoose »

xenospn wrote: post #409
ksec wrote: post #340

As far as I am aware, there isn't a single competitor from big brand manufacture at $599 price point regardless of size. M4, 16GB RAM, Thunderbolt 4. The SSD is the main failing point but with TB4 you can easily get an external SSD. You can also get 10Gbps for extra $100. With EDU or Staff pricing this thing stars at $499. Which is practically a steal. I am thinking it may be better for cooperate to buy this and run…

I’m always confused as to why people are so paranoid about storage size. I got the base MacBook Air and an external 2TB drive for cheap. Super fast and I never worry about anything - I didn’t even manage to get up to 50% of my 256GB drive.

I agree with your sentiment but I feel like many people just don't like the idea of carrying around dongles/cables/hdds/etc with their laptops.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by magnio »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #452
goosedragons wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's still good deals in mini PC land. Yes, the M4 is faster but there's loads of mini PCs with decent CPUs, 32GB RAM and a 1TB of SSD storage for under $600. I think for a lot of people for basic usage they'll get more value out of the larger and upgradable SSDs than the faster CPU. https://www.amazon.com/BOSGAME-5700U-Displays-Computers-Emul... https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-SER5-Desktop-Computer-Graphic...

BOSGAME and Beelink... who makes the motherboards? Nice size. The Beelink has better reviews. Any name brands?

Beelink is well-known in the mini PC market.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Post by apitman »

vbezhenar wrote: post #312

I wish they would add small UPS inside (like super-capacitor or something like that) there to provide way for forced sleep when power is cut off. It's a neat small device which must be accompanied by huge bulky UPS for reliable operation. If someone didn't know, macOS ignores fsync, so without UPS your data is not safe. Not an issue for laptops, obviously, but issue for battery-less devices.

How does macOS guarantee no data loss when shutting down normally?
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