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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Lawyers have a tricky thing called a license to practice law. Software developers have no such protection.

Robots are already successfully performing surgeries unassisted, despite a license being required in that field. I do think barred lawyers will have a role for quite a while, but it is plausible it shrinks to oversight.

What robot is performing what surgery unassisted?

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…

It’s hardly the first time someone has shipped an app within a year of starting to code. It’s impressive, but not revolutionary.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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The issue I continue to have with many AI coding tools is they want me to use their own editor ("native", aka VSCode fork, or in the browser like this). I have zero intention of moving away from IDEA and nothing I've seen so far is good enough to make me want to switch. I really with there was more of "bringing AI into your existing tools/workflows" instead of "here is a new tool with AI baked in".

> AI coding tools want me to use their own editor

Instead of putting the AI in your IDEA, put it in your git repo:

https://aider.chat/

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Sticking to my prediction that lawyers will be first.

Lawyers have a tricky thing called a license to practice law. Software developers have no such protection.

>Software developers have no such protection.

I wonder if this is at all related to NCEES re-releasing their controls licensure option?

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Ironically for these products, the amount of obviously llm generated bot comments astroturfing on HN and making it to the top of these corporate shill posts really aren't attracting me to using any of them. Read a bunch of glassdoor or google map reviews and then read these comments, clear as the water in a glacial lake; if the comments aren't fake, maybe it's just the people working for them that are? If you produce…

If I understand your point, counterargument is that hn comments are made by people who are almost certainly in top 20% by intellect from general population. Compared to some subreddits and YouTube, comments here are made by geniuses.

Comments on HN are made by all sorts of people, some are geniuses that contribute authentically to threads that interest them, and some others operate or invest in glorified template generators that they use to write propaganda about their own products in order to fake popularity and consensus. If one believes everyone else is a genius that uses whichever product, then whoever's not on that train is already obsolete. The nature and style of top comments on LLM related (last years news) threads often reads in such a predictible and distinguishable way from other arbitrary threads that it seems a bit... robotic. Same thing on Reddit.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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With AGI you won’t need most of the human race anymore, developers are just the tip of the iceberg. Luckily ChatGPT and the rest have nothing to do with an AI not to mention AGI.

Won't need most of humanity wasting time gatekeeping and toiling, to instead focus on study and leisure.

That would be nice, to gambol in a lush, sunny meadow, perusing a leather-bound volume that we read in the original Greek or Sanskrit.

Unfortunately, I fear we will instead end up sweaty and dirty and bloodied, grappling in the parched terrain, trying to bash members of a neighboring clan with rocks and wooden clubs, while a skyline of crumbling skyscrapers looms in the distance.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Everyone in this thread is talking about coding, but this is, perhaps more significantly, a word processor. “Change reading level: Adjusts the reading level, from Kindergarten to Graduate School.” “Adjust the length: Edits the document length to be shorter or longer.” “Suggest edits: ChatGPT offers inline suggestions and feedback.”

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Sticking to my prediction that lawyers will be first.

Lawyers have a tricky thing called a license to practice law. Software developers have no such protection.

Programmers have been against unions/licenses in software development because we saw it as slowing down our ability to job hop, potentially massively lowering wages, and making a large barrier to entry (which hurts a lot of us who started as kids/teens).

Now there's a chance that this unregulated wild west with a low barrier to entry that's benefited us for so long will come back to bite us in the ass. Kind of spooky to think about.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #462

Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…

It’s hardly the first time someone has shipped an app within a year of starting to code. It’s impressive, but not revolutionary.

I also wonder what the person would have been hired for... maybe QA? I was doing this with random relevant scripts nearly 20 years ago but wasn't given a job where code would be relevant for the task until loooooong after I could comprehend what I was doing

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Small ot, but it's quite interesting that the highest decisive impact generative AI is having right now is on tech workers and software developers in particular. I'm more and more convinced that we're on the edge of a major shake up in the industry with all these tools. Not getting replaced, but at this rate of improvements I can't unsee major changes. A recent junior I have in my team built his first app entirely wi…

I'm sure that's true but I've also seen non-developers build systems using Access or solve complex critical business problems using excel and similar. I've seen a lot of junior developers tinker with apps and do great work from reading docs and tutorials. I was one of those myself a long time ago. For some problems this is a perfect solution. For a lot it's a short term fix that turns into a long term issue. I've bee…

I think in 4-5 years’ time there will be huge demand for fixing / maintaining these LLM-built apps. Perhaps the LLMs that follow can do it.
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