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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by KoolKat23 »

They mention battery life in this release 11 times without saying how long the battery will last. Please Apple, even just a typical usage number would be great.

It's been many generations since I've had an Apple device, and each year they release a new one I try figure out how long the battery lasts, to no avail. Nobody I know has bought a Max Pro either.

With Apple, you never know, it could still be 10 hours battery life. I mean they just released "ground-breaking" features like moveable icons, something I think Android had since Android 1. My point is one never knows.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by sroussey »

mithr wrote: post #349
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I don't know that I completely agree. To some degree, sure — most folks probably don't notice the year-to-year updates in e.g. computing power. But my 70yo mother, who is pretty far from being technologically savvy, uses continuity every day to copy one-time-use codes from her phone to her computer, even though she'd have no idea what the term "continuity" means in this context. She notices that it's easier to snap b…

Battery can be replaced by going to the apple store and buying a new one which is cheaper than a new phone, so I agree with you on that.

Phone definitely last longer so 6 years sounds about right, as after that they tend to get obsolete.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by wilg »

FireBeyond wrote: post #322
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> Apple makes an excellent product Contrarian opinion on the AirPods. Apple says that they think the new noise cancellation "auto adjust" is better on the "human" side of things, and the social - they showed an interaction where the barista started talking to the wearer, and the AirPods adjusted so the barista could be heard. To me, that's not social, I think it's actually anti-social. It moves the onus onto anyone w…

> It really wouldn't kill you to remove an airpod (or any headphone) if you are in public initiating interactions with someone, for just a few moments.

you can just do this. but sometimes your hands are full, or you dont have use of them, or you dont want to drop your airpod.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by epolanski »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Man I work in IT as a developer and I have absolutely no clue what most of my devices (can) do, and truth to be told I couldn't care less, because if I need something I find out how to do it.

My main phone is a 2019 Xiaomi midrange phone, and I just can't tell how's the Iphone 14 I use to test our apps should be better, and I played with it some.

I read the economist, hackernews watch some YouTube, play chess and occasionally use messaging apps or check banking stuff.

I couldn't care less about editing photos on a phone nor mobile gaming.

I know I live in a bubble, but I don't see users around me do much more than I do with the phone.

It's not like these products are bad, and I think that people that live on their phone will benefit from all of this. But I'm just not one of them.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by paperplatter »

usaphp wrote: post #285

I love how ridiculous the scene to showcase Apple's Intelligence ability to tell you what bread the dog was. Instead of simply asking a women what breed her dog was - he had to open a camera app on his iPhone, ask a women a permission to take a photo of the dog, wait until the AI gives him an answer...

It's weird how they pick unrealistic use cases when there are real ones. Last week I saw a nice plant and wanted to buy the same one, so I used Google's image recognition feature.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by jmyeet »

gerash wrote: post #444
jmyeet wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is engaging in feature-bloat to protect the $1000 price point. That's all that's going on here. Phones (particularly iPhones0 have stubbornly resisted getting cheaper. That's by design. Features get added simply to make it more expensive. We saw this with the Macbooks about a decade ago. The Macbook Air was fantastic because it was cheap. For Apple it was too cheap. So we got Touch bar. Did it solve any user pr…

I haven't had a Mac with touch bar but I can see the point of the idea: You have a keyboard and mouse as inputs to a Mac. why not a mini touch screen as well? but instead of rendering the app content there you render the controls. this way you don't need to remember shortcuts because common actions for an app are displayed there. IMO the idea makes sense but needs further refinement in execution. maybe even better ha…

This ignores the issue that physical keys have tacticle feedback that touch screens do not.

This is a big issue with modern cars (particularly Teslas). People generally hate touch screens because you have to look at them to use them. For driving in particular, that's a real problem. Compare this to a more normal car where you can feel the AC button or the volume or whatever.

Companies like touch screens because it lets them punt on UI/UX design and selecting controls, which means they basically never get done. It's purely a cost issue.

Now with Macbooks, I did like that I could slide my finger for the volume. That's it. And that wasn't worth losing the Escape key for. Or function keys for that matter.

But that's so specific that I'd rather just have a volume control. A slider would be ideal but that takes up a lot of space. The best compromise is a "roller" (like on the Corsair K70 keyboard) as you can get precision and speed. You absolutely don't want to repeatedly hit a volume up or down button.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by [deleted] »

eigenvalue wrote: post #433

I get so much utility from my iPhone that it’s worth many times what it costs to me. So I’ve been on the upgrade program since it came out and get the new model every year. I always look forward to getting the new phone, even though at this point the improvements are incremental. But it’s very much worth it to me just to get better looking videos and photos of my small children. And stuff like better battery life has…

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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by smitelli »

arcticbull wrote: post #274
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse. Battery replacement costs at Apple are $69-99 and offered all the way back to the iPhone SE 1st Generation. That's the all-in cost where you bring it in, they open it up, swap it out, and give your phone back to you. An OEM battery for an Android phone is like $50. Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years hardly seems like it's goin…

And sometimes they rip the display cable while they’re trying to swap out the battery, and you end up with an entirely new SE2 in the end. Happened to us about 1-2 months ago.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by parker-3461 »

dmix wrote: post #164

> Featuring a new 48MP Fusion camera with a faster quad-pixel sensor that enables 4K120 fps video recording in Dolby Vision, these new Pro models achieve the highest resolution and frame-rate combination ever available on iPhone Every iPhone generation makes YouTube video quality slightly better as it’s what a lot of people use. That plus social media. Camera quality is quite amazing these days

Given that they had to upgrade to a new camera sensor to get faster readout speed, I’m wondering if they actually changed to a better sensor with improved pixel size and light sensitivity.

I have read the official press release but it seems like there is no mentions of this.

Might need to wait for the ifixit tear down in ~10 days.

Edit 1: there has been some discussions that eventually the Sony IMX903 would be used, but not sure when that will actually eventuate.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by mason55 »

tekacs wrote: post #60
cube2222 wrote: post #19

I was planning to upgrade this year, and probably still will, but honestly, the differences between the base model and pro model this year are fairly limited. ProMotion, Always-on display, a bunch more resistant to fall damage, and a camera that is better, but doesn't look like a lot. I'm a bit worried about the Apple Intelligence features, as they've been very prominent on WWDC, but were fairly toned-down today. Not…

I've had notification summaries turned on for at least a few weeks as part of the iOS 18 Beta and I can sadly report that they seem to be very very low quality. On occasion they'll squash down something that is better read tersely, but I've overwhelmingly found them to make the content worse than simply reading the original text. I was really hopeful about them going in, but it seems like it might need an iteration o…

I think that there are just very few notifications where a summary is the thing I want. Most of them I either don't care about at all or I want to see the actual text. Either it's important and the details matter or it's, like, a text from my wife and I want to read it in her voice and not a summary.

The fun of my family group chat is reading the messages from everyone.

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