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Garmin is actually pretty competitive. It's definitely more athlete and exercise focused though, to a fault.
I meant a company with a full ecosystem (PC/Phone/Watch) that was competitive.
pixel watch 3?
Apple Watch Series 10
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Every tool has a correct way to be used. You can’t tell me I shouldn’t slide my electric toothbrush from side to side “because of market forces”. Battery technology just isn’t there. Bigger battery means heavier device. Duracell made a smartphone with a huge-ass multiday battery… that the market did not ask for. It has to be a compromise unfortunately. As for the Touch Bar I don’t really understand the hate for it. T…
No I still don’t understand the Apple Watch battery issue. I have a xaiomi mi band 9. The body to screen ratio is roughly the same as the Apple Watch. It does HR tracking, workouts, has excellent 1000 night brightness, weather, notifications etc. I get about 15 days from a charge. They say I can get 21. But either way. I understand the Apple Watch is running better hardware and more things in the background, but ther…
Mi bands are low powered, low-feature and fairly miserable experiences if you interact much with the screen. They are great at no-effort tracking of fitness metrics and providing basic information.
Apple Watches are designed for much more interaction and variety of capability.
It can be hard to understand this if you haven’t used an Apple Watch.
You’re misinformed about the space for substantial additional battery. Look at any teardown to see the compact component fitting.
Your mi band is a great device; just be realistic about the tradeoffs. Other devices don’t have to suck for yours to be good.
(I’ve owned multiple Xiaomi and Apple devices.)
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Comparing Apple Watch to Mi Band makes no sense. Apple Watch is more of a microcomputer than a cheap smart band. It would be better to compare it to something like Garmin Fenix 7X that lasts you almost 40 days with 120 hours in GPS mode and does much more than a Mi Band.
Calling it a "microcomputer" is meaningless. What is it doing? Monitoring some sensors, communicating with a phone via bluetooth, running a screen.
It's miniaturized iPhone as it can be used without phone to make calls, receive messages, stream music etc. as it has e-SIM capabilities. It runs Game Boy Color games which is pretty cool even if not very useful.
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True for phones. Not even close for watches.
Garmin fenix , instinct . Many Gshocks are thicker . Only apple has 1 day battery. Are you desiring a smart Skagen ?
In a perfect world, sure.
I dunno. I just meant that phones are already thin enough that going thinner is irrelevant to most people. That’s not the case yet for smart watches.
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Totally. These things have incredible battery life. In a practical sense, they run forever if you remember to put one on the charger when you shower/get ready in the morning.
I can't tell if this is satire
Not satire. Have never been stranded with a dead watch, don't even think to check its battery life ever.
Granted, I have all notifs muted so it operates mostly as a watch, but still
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> Processing power What are you doing with your apple watch that requires additional processing power? > screen size and quality Many watches have larger screens, Apple screen quality is among the best - true. > active monitoring quality I mean... garmin beats apple hands down, so do other brands. > AOD Almost every modern smart watch has this? > Lower battery life literally doesn't matter if you can charge it in the…
>What are you doing with your apple watch that requires additional processing power? Using apps on it. If all you want is the time and a heart rate monitor than yeah apple watch isn't for you. >I mean... garmin beats apple hands down, so do other brands. I meant day to day active monitoring not when you're in a workout. >Almost every modern smart watch has this? Yes and go check their battery life differences when it…
> I can charge it when it's not needed.
You can also run one app at a time save on RAM.
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As a Garmin watch user, I don't mind the bulk, it's mostly the general _shape_ of the Apple Watch that kills me. It's shaped in such a way that it just sorta knocks into things in weird ways. I'm ultimately still very glad I ditched the Apple Watch in lieu of a more fitness oriented watch but still like to keep an eye on what they're doing. Looks like a decent upgrade for someone that hasn't upgraded in several gener…
what garmin would you recommend, it seems they have a plethora of options
I think it depends entirely on what you want to do.
Do you want a smart watch or fitness watch? I think if you want a real smart watch you're better off with something else, like an Apple Watch.
If you're looking for fitness, I think the Forerunner series is a great starting point. What you'd want to do is look at what you _want_ to do and then go look at the specs for each watch.
For example, if you want to see maps on your watch and get turn-by-turn, that's not available on all watches, and you'll have to move way up the range to get it.
If you want to run, do strength training, monitor your heart rate all day, sleep score, HRV, etc. Those are usually available on all devices.
Their training readiness is another interesting option, that's only available on the higher end watches. Same with endurance score, and a few others.
I have an Instinct 2X because I really like the battery life (40 days just as a watch, I get around 30 or so with a workout every day). The 2X is a pretty big watch though, at 50mm. There are 2 and 2S models that are smaller though.
Usually the sizing goes S for small, just a number for the middle range size, and X for larger size.
With the Forerunner you get more features as you go up the number range. So 1xx, 2xx, and 9xx are the more common model ranges.
I think for most people the 255/265 are pretty good starting points and can often be had at pretty nice prices on sale. I think I paid $250 for my Instinct on a sale recently, might have been $350.
If the Enduro 3 was available at the time I might have gone with that.
Another option is looking at Coros, I think bang for buck, they're the better option usually. The Pace 3 is a stellar watch at that price range. My only complaint with Coros is they don't do ANT+ and that's a feature I kind of want/need since I have a number of devices greater than the typical bluetooth stream count (usually they max out at 2 bluetooth connections simultaneously). But if Garmin ditches MIP displays, I'm switching to Coros.
Edit: Also, based on Garmin's pricing for the Fenix 8 and Enduro 3, I'm really afraid to see the pricing for new models going forward. $800+ for a fitness watch is nuts. The other models are likely to come in under that, but, Enduro 3 went down in price (weirdly) but the Fenix 8 is up rather significantly over the Fenix 7 and Epix that it replaces.
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I can't tell if this is satire
Not satire. Have never been stranded with a dead watch, don't even think to check its battery life ever. Granted, I have all notifs muted so it operates mostly as a watch, but still
My phone also runs practically forever. It charges while I'm driving, and I don't remember the last time it died on me.
> incredible battery life
I would hardly consider <24 hours to br "incredible battery life", especially since their competitors have significantly better battery life - and Apple is on their 10th iteration.
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>What are you doing with your apple watch that requires additional processing power? Using apps on it. If all you want is the time and a heart rate monitor than yeah apple watch isn't for you. >I mean... garmin beats apple hands down, so do other brands. I meant day to day active monitoring not when you're in a workout. >Almost every modern smart watch has this? Yes and go check their battery life differences when it…
> I can charge it when it's not needed. You can also run one app at a time save on RAM.
Yup, and if you don't need to run multiple apps at the same time that is a valid tradeoff if it buys you other things.
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I wear it 23.25+~ hours a day and charge it while i drink coffee in the morning (probably 30-45m on average, while i sit at my desk). I wear it all day, and while i sleep for sleep tracking. I get annoyed when they say 18h and people freak out.. i'm not sure what they're testing vs my daily usage but it doesn't feel the same. I assume it's like 18h with a ton of screen-on time? Either way i wouldn't wear a watch that…
I have a launch day Series 6 (4 years old) with 78% battery health, that I wear all day everyday, and charge in the evening for 30 or so minutes. So it easily lasts 23.5 hours and by that point its at around 25-30% battery life. I genuinely cant understand where the 18 hours they predict come from!
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