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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by snapcaster »

bastardoperator wrote: post #443
seizethecheese wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve had several meetings, either in Twitter office or around it, and the street scene is very bad in that part of SF. If the claim is that this is a motivation for the move, it certainly passes the sniff test for me.

So you've been able to gauge life and the street scene in SF based on several meetings? That's super interesting. I would argue the Embarcadero is fairly nice and I live here, but what do I know.

Only visited for a few days for a conference, but I think if you live there you may have become desensitized to the situation. It's really really not normal to have all the stores boarded up and security guards at the entrance. It's really not normal to be outnumbered by fent addicts nodding off on the street. The worst vibes of any city i've ever been to in my life (Including many people would describe as shitholes). This is so messed up to everyone who hasn't been beaten into acceptance of it

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Post by some-guy »

_kava wrote: post #7

I understand this is HN and many here love SF so can you explain to me how or why a company would want to have a physical location in downtown SF? It is expensive, higher tax, more regulations, all of which are often hated by a pure capitalist corporation. With the remote work push, the argument about talent pool is moot as well. IMO, moving out of SF is the correct choice. In fact, moving out of CA is also a correct…

Moving out of SF may be the correct choice, but most engineers I know who have moved out of CA to cheaper cost of living areas have regretted their decision for one reason or another. Better taxes on paper may not translate to a better talent pool.

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Post by asveikau »

beacon294 wrote: post #422
hintymad wrote: post #412

There is a famous paper about the location of company headquarters: they get as close as possible to the residence of company CEOs. If we don't consider the CEO's influence, I'm actually curious if the location of company headquarters has to do with the average age of the employees in the Bay Area. As the employees start to have families, they most likely move to the south bay for better or for worse, and I have a ha…

What did you mean by "move to south bay for good for worse"? I just couldn't parse your meaning.

They seem unaware that a lot of SF based people go to the east bay.

But it's not inevitable that families move to suburbs either. Commenter is partly perpetuating a 1960s era "white flight" kind of stereotype, where cities are said to be terrible for families. I happen to have two kids in SF.

Additionally, a lot of what drives people out of SF specifically is the expense.

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Post by pound »

fabian2k wrote: post #31

Doing this on a few weeks notice seems rather insane to me. Unless you have very good remote work options this is very disruptive for employees.

Sacramento data center shutdown happened without even a few weeks notice (just suddenly, on Christmas eve Saturday)

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by rapatel0 »

I lived for about 12 months in telegraph hill (got lucky with a solid apartment). I had my wife and 1 year old son.

Despite it being a really nice and affluent neighborhood, there was a weekly mugging outside my house. Any packages or items left outside were basically taken if left out for more than 1 hour. My neighbor’s car parked in front of the house was stolen, taken for a joyride and left in a random part of the city.

On top of that the schools were bottom of the stack in terms of scholastic achievement compared to where i grew up (upstate ny).

Bottomline, when you have a family you don’t have the luxury of tolerating political nonsense at the cost of elevated risk. Moved out.

Only things I miss is the natural beauty and outdoors of California, and the technical community. Nothing like it elsewhere.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by danielhep »

throw4847285 wrote: post #444
hintymad wrote: post #412

There is a famous paper about the location of company headquarters: they get as close as possible to the residence of company CEOs. If we don't consider the CEO's influence, I'm actually curious if the location of company headquarters has to do with the average age of the employees in the Bay Area. As the employees start to have families, they most likely move to the south bay for better or for worse, and I have a ha…

Just in response to your second point, I do think that's specific to you and your circles. I know multiple retired or semi-retired people who have moved towards the center of a city. Without work to keep them occupied, they want the hustle and bustle, which means something to do. And driving has become more of a hassle and a barrier to the kinds of lives they want to live. These are east coast or midwest cities, so m…

Also, a lot of older people don't want big houses, and having easy access to amenities and socialization is more important than having extra empty bedrooms.

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Post by wisconsiway »

nimbius wrote: post #426
hintymad wrote: post #412

There is a famous paper about the location of company headquarters: they get as close as possible to the residence of company CEOs. If we don't consider the CEO's influence, I'm actually curious if the location of company headquarters has to do with the average age of the employees in the Bay Area. As the employees start to have families, they most likely move to the south bay for better or for worse, and I have a ha…

i concur. I think a lot of this is just sound business acumen. Twit-er...X, isnt raking in cash like it used to. Musks changes like reinstating hate speech accounts and the blue check fiasco had a direct negative effect on advertising revenue and accelerated already downward subscriber trends. Leaning out the physical side of the already agile digital side was a good idea im not sure twitters old guard would have con…

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