If this were the massive creative effort they make it out to be, it seems like they'd have netted another solid result or two
OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#462Comments full of people reading the headline and assuming that what OpenAI did here is fine because it's a different actress, but that's not how "Right of publicity" (*) laws work. The article itself explains that there is significant legal risk here: > Mitch Glazier, the chief executive of the Recording Industry Association of America, said that Johansson may have a strong case against OpenAI if she brings forth a l…
The sad thing is: most probably absolutely nothing will happen. These startups break laws, pay the fines and end up just fine. Remember that it was Sam Altman who proposed to change the YC questionnaire to screen applicants by incidents where they have successfully broken rules. YC even boasts about that.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#463Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#464Earlier quoted context omitted.
> After she declined, Ford hired an impersonator. A U.S. appellate court ruled in Midler’s favor, indicating her voice was protected against unauthorized use. That's because it was impersonating them, not sounding like them. If they didn't try to sell it as them they would have been fine
That's the problem here too right? Sam implies the voice is scarlet with his references to Her. To me it all just shows these tech-bro's are just spoiled little brads with strong incel energy. I 100% expect a scandal in a few months where it turns out Sam has a bunch of VR porn bots generated by AI that just 'happen' to look and sound EXACTLY like some celebs...
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#465Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#466Comments full of people reading the headline and assuming that what OpenAI did here is fine because it's a different actress, but that's not how "Right of publicity" (*) laws work. The article itself explains that there is significant legal risk here: > Mitch Glazier, the chief executive of the Recording Industry Association of America, said that Johansson may have a strong case against OpenAI if she brings forth a l…
Of course he does. RIAA thinks nearly everything is illegal, and in general mocked or critiqued on the site when they go after some shared mp3s or whatever.
His opinion is neither authoritative or informative.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#467The thing that worried me initially was that: - the original report by Scarlett said she was approached months ago, and then two days prior to launch of GPT-4o she was approached again Because of the above, my immediate assumption was that OpenAI definitely did her dirty. But this report from WaPo debunks at least some of it, because the records they have seen show that the voice actor was contacted months in advance…
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#468Earlier quoted context omitted.
Surely there’s some kind of difference between “voice impression for a two-line cameo in one episode of an animated sitcom” and “reproducing your voice as the primary interface for a machine that could be used by billions of people and is worth hundreds of billions of dollars.” Is there a name for this AI fallacy? The one where programmers make an inductive leap like, for example, if a human can read one book to lear…
If famous actors could sue over the use of a less-famous actor that sounds just like them, what's to stop less-famous actors from suing over the use of a famous actor who sounds just like them in big-budget movies? ... and that's when you discover that "unique voice" is a one-in-a-million thing and thousands of people have the same voice, all asking for their payout.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#469I.e. maybe being hot is actually less about being unique and more anout being consistent.
Maybe sultry female voices only have so much variety.
I didn’t think of Scarjo during the demo. That said, I don’t need robots to be sexy, so it doesn’t matter.
I feel the real goal is to slow OpenAI down with distractions.
Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show
#470Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They contacted Johansson after the Sky voice was created, they didn’t create it because she declined. Her statement says otherwise: "Last September, I received an offer from Sam Altman, who wanted to hire me to voice the current ChatGPT 4.0 system. He told me that he felt that by my voicing the system, I could bridge the gap between tech companies and creatives and help consumers to feel comfortable with the seismi…
The Sky voice was released with the first ChatGPT voices last year in September, so there's no contradiction there unless they asked her on the 1st of September and somehow trained another voice within the few weeks after she said no. Here's a video that someone posted in October talking to the same Sky voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SamGnUqaOfU
Er, that is totally possible? You act like it's not a machine learning system. You train new stuff in hours or days easily, especially if you have good tooling. Imagine saying this of, say, Stable Diffusion image LoRAs: "this X artist LoRA couldn't be based on X because it was somehow trained within the few weeks after X said no!"
All the timing means is that, in good management & startup fashion, because they needed multiple voices, they had a voice pipeline going, and so could have a bunch of female voices in the pipeline for optionality. And if licensing Johansson didn't work out, you have a plan B (and C, and preferably D). This is big business, you don't do things serially or not have backups: "'hope' is not a plan".