Live data from Hacker News

Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

9to5mac.com

461–470 of 653 posts

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#461
post #89

So I guess regulation is good after all... perhaps we can get some traction with that in US?

I think it's too early to draw any conclusions. It's going to take some time before you can definitely say if consumers are better off.

Just out of curiosity, in your eyes, how could this regulation not be good for consumers?

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#462
post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So happy to see the will of elected officials usurp a multinational. There is literally nothing to dislike about this.

I can’t even tell if I should apply Poe’s Law here.

I’m not subject to Poe’s Law as a free, sovereign national of the Americas.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a ceiling?

There is, it's called workforce. Incase you need an example, TSMC recently pushed back its fab plans in the US by atleast a year because they couldn't find enough specialists.

Economic growth can come from productivity gains without any material change in workforce.

TSMC's delays have to do with not offering enough pay not a lack of people capable of installing wafer fab tools or building electrical or mechanical systems for fabs.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#465
post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Difficult to imagine what Apple were thinking in the first place. Did they actually think there was a chance the EU would let this slide? Best I can tell, all they've achieved is bringing even greater scrutiny on themselves.

When reason fails to explain people's actions, it gives you a measure of the strength of their ideology on something. In this case, you can see how deeply they believe in the concept of complete authoritarian control of their ecosystem. Enough that logic and practical outcomes barely matter in comparison.

Or the tech gossip scene, sorry, “tech press”, doesn’t have full visibility over the circumstances.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#466
post #394
post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft simply lacked the network effects Microsoft execs had their heads buried too deep in their own asses to be able to understand what was needed at the time. They pushed a platform (Windows phone) that lacked interesting features out of the box, lacked cloud services integration to fill the gap left by the lacking base features, and required Windows as a development platform (and, iirc, C# as well?). It didn…

I think there’s more to it than this, and it’s subtle: The iPhone was cool . Seriously, the original iPhone had little going for it technically. No GPS, poor data bandwidth, no apps, and minimal ability to make phone calls. (It took the combined efforts of Apple and AT&T a couple generations before you could reliably place a call.) But it had a touch screen that felt nice, and you could watch videos and play music! T…

> iPhone had little going for it technically. No GPS, poor data bandwidth, no apps, and minimal ability to make phone calls.

Things that apparently were not that important at launch. Apple did negotiate "unlimited" data plans with Cingular/AT&T.

> But it had a touch screen that felt nice, and you could watch videos and play music! The web browser actually performed well despite the low bandwidth

Better UI, better media playback, web browser that worked. Sounds like a classic example of Apple taking what is out there and simply doing it better.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#467

Apple’s behavior largely makes sense given what a huge share of their profits their racketeering of customer access earns them. If you ever wanted to see regulation pains as the cost of doing business, this is it. But banning epic was just pathetic baby behavior. I hope epic launches the epic game store for iOS and its dogshit but cheaper and the gacha gravy boats all jump ship

Why does Epic get the privilege to force me to buy things through their store?

How would they force you to buy anything? If you don't want to use their store, then don't install it?

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#468
post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of those things where there is only upside for everyone involved. Apple (and Google) need to be saved from themselves sometimes. Meanwhile the repeated reversals are making Apple look guilty and nefarious.

Apple and Google are for-profit corporations. Im sure they would protest that they don't need saving

I liken good regulation as a way to prevent markets from getting stuck in a local maxima. That's generally what people mean from "saving them from themselves.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#469

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But ML is different and I think they should care. It’s totally this time I promise, just like, one more ~~lane~~ model. I’m sure they do care. I wouldn’t be surprised if they land significant support for on-app processing of models, they’ve already got the chip, dropping in local models is a sensible next step, and if close to zero effort for them. > LLMs are going to have some general applications that users are g…

Part of Apple's problem is that they're expected to vendor support for third-party stuff. Who accelerates Pytorch or ONNX for Apple silicon, if not Apple? They've done an okay job of that so far, but their flagship library is diverging pretty far from industry demand. At best, CoreML is a slightly funkier Tensorflow - at worst, it's a single-platform model cemetery. No matter what road they take, they have to keep in…

> an unwinnable fight when you're selling to datacenter customers.

didn't Apple pretty much throw in the towel in this market simply by choice of form factor for their computers? The sheer desperation of their users wanting a device in this space is shown in the "creative" ways to mount their offerings in a rack.

all of the user friendly things they've done by shrinking the footprint, making them silent, etc are all things a data center does not care about. make it loud with fans to keep things cool so they can run at full load 24/7 without fear of melting down.

so from that lead alone, we can make the next assumption in that Apple doesn't care about vs CUDA. as long as they can show a chart in an over produced hype video for a new hardware announcement that has "arrows go up" as a theme, that is ALL they care about.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

#470

Apple’s behavior largely makes sense given what a huge share of their profits their racketeering of customer access earns them. If you ever wanted to see regulation pains as the cost of doing business, this is it. But banning epic was just pathetic baby behavior. I hope epic launches the epic game store for iOS and its dogshit but cheaper and the gacha gravy boats all jump ship

Why does Epic get the privilege to force me to buy things through their store?

Epic has the privilege to allow you to buy things from their store.
Post reply on HN