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> Running a site for others to download movies doesn't bother me. > being a snake to go defraud a company to steal the hard work of others so your own illicit company can turn a profit off said labor by others irks me. I'm sorry, I really don't understand this. What part of the second statement doesn't apply to the first?
You give it away for free instead.
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There have been a lot of falsely accused "spies" recently like Xiaoxing Xi, Sherry Chen, and Anming Hu. All charges were eventually dropped. I wonder what will happen with this case.
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While I applaud your optimism, your hope for a brighter future is not a scalable solution for securing trade secrets at tech companies.
If your company elects not to hire people on account of them being Chinese, they will rightfully get the pants sued off of them.
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He was white washing the documents via Apple Notes and it worked initially. From the indictment I posted here... >In total, DING uploaded more than 500 unique files containing Google Confidential Information, including the trade secrets alleged in Counts One through Four. DING exfiltrated these files by copying data from the Google source files into the Apple Notes application on his Google-issued MacBook laptop. DIN…
>> This method helped DING evade immediate detection Evidently not. It just shows that the guy is not a foreign intelligence operative - a professional could easily operate there for years undetected with fairly basic opsec. That said, aside from things like hardware designs and perhaps certain model weights, I struggle to think of anything at Google that anyone would want that’s not already on GitHub.
It was this person's ploy to pretend there is extremely valuable IPs in the docs he illegally obtained.
It just shows that this person indeed was clueless about large-scale engineering. I.e., stealing all of the code wont give any org the capability to do large-scale engineering. It most likely would cripple the org, as the foreign objects act as poison.
The ideal trick is to pretend that he possess the secret.
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Did that person just go around disclosing their plan?
I think if someone actually had government handlers asking them to do this, most of those people wouldn't blab about it to their school chums. But there's a subset of people with grandiose delusions / general behavior problems who feel a compulsion to tell everyone about their grand plans/machinations to become rich and powerful.
You wouldn't have to be a delusional braggart to want to tell a friend this. Most spies are not going to be as much of a compartmentalized lunatic like Robert Hanssen or someone at that level.
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Survivorship bias in action? The only ones we hear about are the ones who are sloppy enough to get caught. The people who know how to not get caught, doesn't get caught so we never hear about them.
Exactly. We only know about the terrible ones.
The twist of the story though is they were duped themselves. They were setup to get caught as a decoy while the real crime took place.
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I'm not aware of any corp doing this and why should they? There are as many valid reasons registering a company without affecting your employment.
When you apply to Google, they ask what other employment you have, IP you own, etc. Many companies do some variation of this, but I believe Google is one of the most restrictive on its employees.
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You expect Google to scan the database of companies in every country continuously to see if employees are executives of them? How would this handle different people who have the same name? Disclosure: I work at Google.
The Google hiring process can take months. They have time to haze people with Leetcode but no time to do a good vet of a person who may be a high risk security threat.
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I'm not aware of any corp doing this and why should they? There are as many valid reasons registering a company without affecting your employment.
When you apply to Google, they ask what other employment you have, IP you own, etc. Many companies do some variation of this, but I believe Google is one of the most restrictive on its employees.