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Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by ryandrake »

roenxi wrote: post #457
ryandrake wrote: post #420

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I used to trot this URL[1] out a lot, but it's a pretty old survey now. In 2003, 39% of Americans believed that they either were(19%) or one day would be(20%) among the top 1% of earners. 1: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/12/opinion/the-triumph-of-ho...

They might not be that wrong Article is paywalled, but I'd expect that a double digit % US citizens are in the top 1% globally. They're pretty wealthy. 1% is like 80 million people. That could translate to around 10% of the US. And the names of those 10% change as people earn more or less through their lives.

Sorry, it used to be non-paywalled. If I recall correctly, the question was scoped to the USA, so indeed 39% of USA people believed they were or would be in the top 1% of the USA.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by troupo »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #449
troupo wrote: post #411

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> I don't know Exactly. And this doesn't surprise me. The law states: if you collect more data than is strictly required for your site[1] to function and/or send user data to third parties, you have to: - tell the users about it - let the users to opt out, where opt out must be as easy as opt in - if the users opt out, the site[1] must continue working So yes, that site does send some extra data to third-parties, and…

> And yet... "I don't know". What is there to know? Nearly every website on the western internet has these cookie banners including the EU's own government sites. The practical consequences of the laws are now apparent. So what did we all miss that was hidden in the legalese?

> What is there to know?

Rarely do you see people flaunt their willful ignorance.

> Nearly every website on the western internet has these cookie banners

Well, since you approach is "I don't know and what is there to know", it's no surprise that the industry so easily sold you the lie of "the EU's laws are at fault"

> including the EU's own government sites.

Compare the banner on the site linked above and the usual dark patterns employed by the industry.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by troupo »

input_sh wrote: post #445
troupo wrote: post #440

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39603540

> Even that law (which got updated along to align with GDPR IIRC) does't require the cookie banners that the industry has barfed up. Yeah it does[0], and no it didn't get updated. ePrivacy Regulation which was supposed to make it deprecated was never voted on. [0] "Where such devices, for instance cookies, are intended for a legitimate purpose, such as to facilitate the provision of information society services, thei…

> Yeah it does[0]

Not the ones that the industry has barfed up, and I specifically chose this wording

ePrivacy: "their use should be allowed on condition that users are provided with clear and precise information"

GDPR (among other things): "the request for consent shall be presented in a manner which is clearly distinguishable from the other matters, in an intelligible and easily accessible form, using clear and plain language... It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent."

Nothing in any law requires the "accept by default, go through hundreds of checkboxes to opt-out". If anything, those are actually illegal.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by alecco »

7moritz7 wrote: post #379
alecco wrote: post #243

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> Because left-right patterns from the US don't properly transfer to pluralist democracies like most in the EU Perhaps you should check your own biases. The political spectrum comes from Europe. And I'm not American. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum#Historical_... My point stands, this post adds nothing of value. Even as opinion is a very average socialist position we've heard many, many times.

> very average socialist position There is no such thing as an "average left-wing socialist opinion". Socialists can be both right- and left-wing by your superficial spectrum. You are probably talking about Social Democrats, rarely labeled Socialist Democrats. Which is not the same as Socialists.

Again, it's obvious what I mean by socialists. It's not other groups using the word "socialist" in their name, like some communists (USSR) or national-socialists (Nationalsozialismus). I mean what universally is called "socialism" as a single word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International

And you argue against my wording but not against my actual points. The post is bland and unoriginal.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by llm_trw »

gpderetta wrote: post #200
llm_trw wrote: post #193

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>Italian-living-in-UK Sounds like someone voted with their feet.

I moved well before brexit and got rag-pulled.

It's been a while since brexit, surely if it was that bad you could go back home by now.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by VWWHFSfQ »

troupo wrote: post #462
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #449

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> And yet... "I don't know". What is there to know? Nearly every website on the western internet has these cookie banners including the EU's own government sites. The practical consequences of the laws are now apparent. So what did we all miss that was hidden in the legalese?

> What is there to know? Rarely do you see people flaunt their willful ignorance. > Nearly every website on the western internet has these cookie banners Well, since you approach is "I don't know and what is there to know", it's no surprise that the industry so easily sold you the lie of "the EU's laws are at fault" > including the EU's own government sites. Compare the banner on the site linked above and the usual d…

Just to be sure that we're talking about the same thing,

are you saying that the explosion of opt-in cookie banners on the web is not the result of the EU's privacy laws?

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by ajuc »

s_dev wrote: post #270
ajuc wrote: post #215

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> That still needed EU approval Half the EU (basically the whole Eastern Europe) protested. Germany did it anyway.

Germany holds a lot of sway in the EU. My point is that Germany didn't do this unilaterally.

No, they did it bilaterally (with Russia) because France didn't mind.

This is the problem with EU.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by indymike »

throwup238 wrote: post #342
indymike wrote: post #332

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> No one expected to provide a bunch of logistics support to a non-NATO ally that uses our Cold War enemy’s doctrine. Rephrase: No one expected a real land war in Europe without establishing air superiority.

You can rephrase it all you like it doesn’t change the question: why would the US spend a bunch of money on artillery ammunition when it and its NATO allies don’t use artillery? Why waste money on something we don’t use? The US armed forces make a lot of dumb choices with their funding but “underspending on artillery we don’t use” is not one of them. Even with hindsight it doesn’t make sense.

Oh, boy. The ones that say "cannon artillery" operate howitzers, mostly M-777, M-109 and M-119. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_field_artillery_regime... Our allies largely manufacture their own 155MM systems.

Plenty of M-777 M-119s and M-109s are still in use. The idea that the US doesn't have or use artillery is just factually wrong. The fact we didn't have substantially more ammunition stocks for those weapons is a mistake.

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

Isinlor wrote: post #354
roenxi wrote: post #51

I quite like the article as far as it goes; but this begs the follow up question - is the strategy working? Because for all their standards and harmonisation, the manufacturing is happening in China and the decisions are being made in North America. This should be an article about how Nokia or equivalent is approaching the US all wrong and not understanding the realities on the ground. I'd put energy in a similar fra…

On the basic premise EU is working wonderfully. It's the longest period in our thousand years history that we Poles have not had to fight Germans. We have lost maybe even 1/3 of population in wars with Sweden, 1/5 of population in war with Germany. Poland didn't exist or 123 years under Russian, Prussian and Austrian occupation. Given that as a baseline, I'm really grateful for the EU.

Even within the EU it is clear that low income countries have worse life than high income countries, just like everywhere in the world. And Europe's real median income is decreasing in most of the countries. Surely, it will have effect in few decades.

[1]: https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/08/21/real-wages-are-down...

Re: Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management

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Post by tatersolid »

smoldesu wrote: post #319
bengale wrote: post #303

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> Have you never met an Apple user that carried around both Lightning and USB-C cables? Have you ever met someone that just has an iPhone? There are considerably more of them than those carrying ipads and MacBooks and switches and the like.

I have, and I didn't hear one of them complain when USB-C iPhones were released worldwide.

I am an iPhone-only person complaining! The physical USB-C connector sucks. They wiggle loose, stop connecting properly after just months of use, and are more delicate. I have 10-year-old lightning cables that still work great in my kid’s 6-year-old handed-down iPhone. Meanwhile I have been through multiple USB-C cables that last only months, fall out of the ports easily, and can’t be used to charge or even physically stay in the port of my Dell laptop reliably despite looking the same as all other USB-C cables.
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