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Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Yeah, you just can't let all media, all the cost and hard work of millions of photographers, animators, filmmakers, etc be completely consumed and devalued by one company just because it's a very cool technical trick. The more powerful these services become the more obvious that will be. What OpenAI does is amazing, but they obviously cannot be allowed to capture the value of every piece of media ever created — it'll…

Are you against records? Because the technology to record songs and play them back at your leisure killed an entire industry of live performers / instrumentalists?

The call for live music drastically shrank when it became trivial for any business or residence to play music on command.

Are you against automatic language translation? I can positively guarantee that the training data that they used to be able to create significantly better translation models was not authorized for that purpose.

The entire translator industry has been steadily shrinking ever since the invention of automatic language translation.

Etc etc etc.

There's obviously two aspects of this complex social issue right now.

1. Whether or not the usage of publicly available media as training data is legal/ethical.

2. Whether or not the output of these types of generative systems (even if they're trained on "ethical" training data) which may result in the displacement of many jobs is legal/ethical.

I'm neither for nor against AI (LLM, diffusion, video, etc), but if you are going to take a stance, then you have to be consistent in your view.

You don't get to cherry pick - I don't want to see you using chatGPT, copilot, stable diffusion, DALL-E, midjourney, sora, etc.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

> We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI.

In the US, let's keep that in mind.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

OpenAI is one major privacy/compliance scandal away from losing that power. I believe it's inevitable, and MS 'will' throw them under the bus when that happens.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

Depression and gloom? Not here!

I can see all of my plans for world domination coming together right in front of my eyes. A few years ago I was absolutely certain I’d die without achieving my dream of becoming God Emperor of a united Planet Earth.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

I think you can create an alternate reality with these tools in a way that we havent even thought can alter ones own self.

We have seen this in small scale of social media that ones self esteem.

We will see a new set of problems that would be much deeper. Videos and image that make you believe false reality, reliance of GPT will generate false knowledge.

False reality problems have started popping up everywhere. It is going to be much deeper. I think we are in for a really crazy trip

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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I love how they show the failure cases: compare that with Gemini 1.5 pro's technical paper that carefully avoids any test where it does not seem like a 100% perf! I think confronting your failures a condition for success, and Google seems much too self-indulgent here.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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This is leaps and bounds beyond anything out there, including both public models like SVD 1.1 and Pika Labs' / Runway's models. Incredible.

Let's hold our breath. Those are specifically crafted hand-picked good videos, where there wasn't any requirement but "write a generic prompt and pick something that looks good", with no particular requirements. Which is very different from the actual process where you have a very specific idea and want the machine to make it happen. DALL-E presentation also looked cool and everyone was stoked about it. Now that we k…

Wrong, this is the first time I've seen an astronaut with a knit cap.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

The climate is burning. The Amazon is likely collapsing sooner than we expect. There are plenty of wars around the globe and a major multi country conflict brewing in Africa. Western politics are laughable, and still the best if you want to be free to say what you want and have rights. Inequality is incredibly high and rising. And so on.

So there are a lot of things to be depressed about before you get depressed about a little increase in misinformation and idiocy on the interwebs. I mean... things like polio and the measles are literally back to fuck with us because people are so fucking stupid they think vaccines are a bad thing.

It'll be fine.

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