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Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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If one has a serious health condition that affects blood oxygen levels, pulse oximetry can be useful. For the average healthy person, the medical value is very little to nil. Uses of pulse oximetry: https://www.healthline.com/health/pulse-oximetry#purpose-and... Most of the above conditions listed above occur in very sick people already under close medical supervision, with the exception of asthma. But even in asthma…

There is also value in monitoring stats over time. ie: knowing what's normal for you and even a normal range throughout the day allows you to identify changes before you get to a state where a hospital is needed. On the non-medical side, I fly small, unpressurized airplanes and altitude can definitely have an effect on blood oxygen levels. Having this data collected in the background as I fly or do other activities i…

Valuable as in "satisfies my curiosity" or valuable in some actionable way?

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Why is it scummy? Hiring people to produce goods or services and compensating them based on the value of their knowledge and abilities is sort of the entire value pitch of capitalism, and it's unlikely anyone would have moved over to Apple if the compensation wasn't more worthwhile to them.

It's like meeting a friend's girlfriend and then asking her out later behind your back.

Companies aren't people, and it's embarrassing that society's first response to a corporate dispute is to anthropomorphize them.

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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I dunno, Apple has better market access and product execution so isn’t it a good thing if they acquire innovative tech?

then do it the proper way. acquire the rights and pay for it.

They did do it the proper way: They purchased the humans who made it.

The patent system is ridiculous.

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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I don’t think “brainrape” is a good description as employees leave of their own choice. The corporation isn’t paramount, the individual is. Saying Apple “brainraped” Marino because Masimo didn’t want the employees to leave with their skills leaves out the very important part that employees wanted to leave. Companies should be able to hire away key talent because it helps the talent who get hired away. As well as the…

The point is not that employees left. The point is that Apple had Masimo describe their tech, the issues and methods they developed to solve them, and Apple walked away to rebuild Masimo's solution. They succeeded, but unfortunately for them the methods were already patented IP of Masimo, that company which explained this whole field to Apple in first place. The fact that Apple hired Masimo staff to do so is just the…

That’s still not rape as no employees were forced to do anything against their will.

Making large offers to attract employees isn’t even unethical or illegal, much less anyone near rape.

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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> That trade will be complete before the market "sees" you are trying to buy a ton. That's not how the market works. There are not enough open sell orders at any price (let alone a little above most recent price) for someone to sweep in and buy 51% (or even just a few percent) at once. As soon as more than a trivial (in the noise) amount of your buys goes through all the open sell orders will start to move up in pric…

And the sell orders will move in a matter of microseconds, right? It's not just automated trading, it's automated high frequency trading, where trading firms employ armies of excellent low-level programmers to shave off clock cycles from the trading algorithms to be the first company to react to market changes.

Yes, it is fun to watch this in the level 2 quotes (although the true high frequency stuff is surely in and out before it has time to show up, I assume). Put an order at the bid or the ask (depending on direction) and move it up or down a penny and watch all the other nearby open orders instantly reshuffle.

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Why do you think 51% of the companies shares are available all at once at exactly slightly above market value? How exactly do you think this trade would get completed?

To those not in the know, a stock ticker looks like a price tag.

When I first started learning about stock markets I got a lot of insight from one comment a friend (who had gone into finance) made to me: the stock market is not a vending machine.

There is no set price to buy shares. If you just want to buy 100 shares at the current ask, it'll probably go through (but even that is no guarantee), but the next 100 shares might well not be available at that price anymore.

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Not the most neutral article. Worth to note that is not just some obscure small company coming out of nowhere to capitalize from Apple. Masimo is a decades-old medical equipment company, with several developments and patents for non-invasive PPG. Apple is obviously well-aware of their developments, and was in touch with them already in 2013, more than a year before the launch of the Apple Watch. From the actual lawsu…

RE ...increadabilly scummy....., - Microsoft and Bill Gates used to pull similar tricks for new tech they wanted ....

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Didn't the Microsoft surface table project that predated apple multitouch already show rotation?

The original Surface was unveiled a few months (May 30, 2007) after the iPhone (January 9, 2007). Not sure who implemented the idea first in the lab, but probably neither of them.

This MS patent predated Apple's earliest, had most of multitouch but I think rotation was a fixed gesture by a set number of degrees

https://patents.google.com/patent/JP2013117985A/en

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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I carefully and intentionally included trademark. And copyright. > I like trademarks which disallow other companies than Apple from selling products called “Apple Watch” or other companies than Samsung from selling “Samsung Galaxy S” series phones. Why? It only serves companies to help them become larger companies. If you think it helps customers understand what they're buying, consider: customers are basically obliv…

I don't know dude, I sometimes know what product I wanna buy and I enjoy that I can more or less trust that among reputable stores, a product carrying the name and logo of the product I wanna buy is the product I wanna buy.

> I sometimes know what product I wanna buy and I enjoy that I can more or less trust that among reputable stores

That's fair. You can have all of that without trademark or copyright though.

> a product carrying the name and logo of the product I wanna buy is the product I wanna buy.

Lots of products can carry the name and logo of the product you want to buy without trademark :)

Maybe there is something besides the logo that you're more interested in?

Re: Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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The researcher individuals will be paid their salary and their jobs' existence depends solely on ability of the shareholders to protect their investment.

Exactly, and that's my point! The individual who does the invention gets a normal salary which they would've gotten anywhere doing anything (or, at best, a slightly higher salary than others doing similar work), and the people who reap the reward are the shareholders and executives.

That's worse an understanding of economics than I'd expect here. The fact that fruit of research and development is protected investment creates research jobs. Without patent protection, shareholders and executives would hire fewer people and overall progress would be slower.
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