On the one hand, as a designer who uses Figma every day, this is great news. On the other hand, the fact that Dylan Field was willing to do it in the first place felt like a bit of a heel turn. Yeah, it's a lot of money, I know. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I've already shifted my expectations for the long term direction of the product from "they can do no wrong" to "when is the other shoe going to drop?"
Figma and Adobe abandon proposed merger
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#462Earlier quoted context omitted.
They will be forced to now, isn't it? I am sure they wouldn't want to start from scratch. But have to admit, XD was nothing as compared to Figma right now.
XD never took off. If Adobe wants to get into the UI market they would need to go back to the drawing board and start from scratch. If you're starting with a failed product you're most likely going to fail again.
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#463The UK regulator blew this deal up. Founders should think twice about doing business in the UK.
The DOJ was surely going to sue, and most likely win. Adobe killed their own worse product to buy a competitor. Seems like an open and shut case. Your analysis seems extremely short-sighted.
Also what product did Adobe had that was in direct competition with Figma?
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#464While I do see this as great news (for all the reasons others have outlined), I wonder how this will impact VC in the future; If the current goal is for companies to get VC money, burn that cash for years and years and years, and then have a huge IPO or acquisition (that makes it all worth it), it would seem regulatory issues would start to scare away investment.
In certain narrow cases maybe, where you really want the monopoly-holder to buy the startup. But overall this is better for VCs because competition breeds both investment and acquisition opportunities. In most cases 3 big competitors seeking to acquire your startup is better than 1 big monopoly seeking to acquire your startup.
Re: Figma and Adobe abandon proposed merger
#465Earlier quoted context omitted.
It could. XD is dead but maybe this might inspire Adobe to revive it.
They will be forced to now, isn't it? I am sure they wouldn't want to start from scratch. But have to admit, XD was nothing as compared to Figma right now.
Judging by the 20bil price they wanted to pay, I guess they know what kind of investment would be needed to compete now.
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#466> Fifteen months into the regulatory review process, Figma and Adobe no longer see a path toward regulatory approval How in the world did it take fifteen months for regulators to reject this? That’s an absurdly long time to be operating a business in limbo, and I have to assume it’s the regulators dragging their feet since the companies have every incentive to move quickly. I don’t have an opinion on whether or not t…
I really doubt regulators are dragging their feet. They are most likely understaffed and overworked. Things this big should take time for all sides.
Re: Figma and Adobe abandon proposed merger
#467> Fifteen months into the regulatory review process, Figma and Adobe no longer see a path toward regulatory approval How in the world did it take fifteen months for regulators to reject this? That’s an absurdly long time to be operating a business in limbo, and I have to assume it’s the regulators dragging their feet since the companies have every incentive to move quickly. I don’t have an opinion on whether or not t…
Presumably regulators in a few countries were interested, each with their own processes, and presumably there's some fairly significant back and forth between the regulators and adobe/figma as adobe/figma tried to convince the regulators that the deal should go ahead.
15 months seems very believable for a deal of this size.
Re: Figma and Adobe abandon proposed merger
#468> Fifteen months into the regulatory review process, Figma and Adobe no longer see a path toward regulatory approval How in the world did it take fifteen months for regulators to reject this? That’s an absurdly long time to be operating a business in limbo, and I have to assume it’s the regulators dragging their feet since the companies have every incentive to move quickly. I don’t have an opinion on whether or not t…
And with market conditions having changed so much in 15 months, this could just as easily be buyer/sellers remorse before the deal actually closes. For a 15+ month closing, it wouldn’t be the first time!
Actually completing mergers/buyouts takes years anyway.
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#469> Fifteen months into the regulatory review process, Figma and Adobe no longer see a path toward regulatory approval How in the world did it take fifteen months for regulators to reject this? That’s an absurdly long time to be operating a business in limbo, and I have to assume it’s the regulators dragging their feet since the companies have every incentive to move quickly. I don’t have an opinion on whether or not t…
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#470Earlier quoted context omitted.
Public approval like this is a good signal to send to the regulators (and disapproval when they fail to do their job) -- it helps counterbalance the pressure from lobbyists and politicians aligned with industries.
What’s the best way to send signals to regulators?