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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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And you'll pay a lot more in taxes to maintain the roads: "an increase in axle weight from 18,000 pounds to 20,000 pounds causes 50 percent more damage to the pavement." See: https://highways.dot.gov/public-roads/mayjun-2009/exploring-... . It's massive!

Wow that's crazy!

Yeah, the formula for road damage is a very fast growing function

((vehicle weight^4)/number of axles)

Re: Cybertruck Launch

#463

We welcome any and all creative attempts to convince the public to use evs, which are massively piling up on dealer lots.

A better recipe than this truck: * Honda Civic sized * Honda civic priced * 400 mile range * only one small CarPlay display in middle * no 4g chip for the car whatsoever * free roadside charging assistance for 10 years

If it’s better, it will be built?

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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And you'll pay a lot more in taxes to maintain the roads: "an increase in axle weight from 18,000 pounds to 20,000 pounds causes 50 percent more damage to the pavement." See: https://highways.dot.gov/public-roads/mayjun-2009/exploring-... . It's massive!

Wow that's crazy!

I also think as heavier electric cars become more ubiquitous, they will impose a threat on structures like multi level garages that weren’t designed to take this amount of weight.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Nobody is cross shopping a Model X and a small economy car. You need to compare 'worse for the environment' of a Model X vs. a medium-big SUV.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if one's goal was to save the environment they would focus on making those small cars, and as many of them as possible. Not Model Xs, not cyber trucks, not roadsters, etc

Improving efficiency of the least efficient cars is actually better at making a meaningful difference. Replacing a 20mpg average car with an EV that gets 80mpge makes a proportionally bigger difference than replacing a 35mpg car with one that gets 115mpge.

The least efficient vehicles have the biggest impact on the environment.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

#466

This is what we call vehicle weight inflation. As cars get heavier and heavier, the roads get increasingly more dangerous for smaller cars, which causes everyone to get bigger cars. And the loop continues.

Everyone gets bigger cars because bigger cars have more room inside so they're really comfortable and practical. Teslas are heavier because they have to use batteries and batteries are incredibly inefficient compared to petrol. This is the consequence of you asking them to get rid of combustion.

I think the proper term is energy dense.

Efficiency in cars is usually meant to be energy efficiency, energy out over energy in. And electric cars are usually more efficient by most metrics, even if you count the amount of gas an internal combustion engine uses vs the amount it takes an oil fired plant to charge an electric car that drives the same distance (well-to-wheels efficiency).

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By "themselves" do you mean Elon Musk? I wasn't under the impression that Tesla was much of a collaborative environment. Musk bans Kanban and Toyota Production System principles after all.

Tesla has its own principles, and collaboration is a big part of them. One reason so many engineers apply to work at Tesla is that they get to see their ideas implemented quickly and without excessive bureaucracy.

There are very good reasons why safety-critical products do not "move fast and break people". It is generally frowned upon in civil society to disregard safety and human life just to satisfy your curiosity and greed. I understand that the executive team at Tesla does not care given that they push a unfinished, defective, and criminally unsafe product like FSD onto the roads to make their numbers, but it reflects poorly to portray such a ingrained sociopathic company culture positively.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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While I appreciate the unique design of the Cybertruck, I have a huge concern with its huge size and the potential safety risks for pedestrians. The trend of increasingly larger vehicles, like SUVs and trucks, has already raised issues regarding pedestrian safety. The Cybertruck, being notably larger than most contemporary cars in the same category, could exacerbate this problem, especially if it opens the door to si…

The Cybertruck is actually rather low for a truck. The edge of the hood would hit a typical person in the gut, not the neck or face as with many other trucks (especially lifted trucks). https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/model-s-v...

I saw one side by side with a Rivian R1T at a red light and it absolutely dwarfed the R1T. Doesn’t look low to me.

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I don't think anybody missed it, but many people experienced far worse in their own cities during the "Summer of Love" in 2020. Nobody I know cares about J6 except as a political football.

Man, you guys would be so screwed if you didn't have the "Summer of Love" to fall back on when someone criticizes your personality cult. You should contemplate that sometime, just as an exercise. What would it be like to live in a world where whataboutism doesn't amount to a cheat code to summon the easily-led? One where your beliefs, opinions, arguments, and actions actually have to stand on their own, without refer…

One of those affected me personally, the other didn't. I don't see how that's whataboutism.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

#470

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I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if one's goal was to save the environment they would focus on making those small cars, and as many of them as possible. Not Model Xs, not cyber trucks, not roadsters, etc

Improving efficiency of the least efficient cars is actually better at making a meaningful difference. Replacing a 20mpg average car with an EV that gets 80mpge makes a proportionally bigger difference than replacing a 35mpg car with one that gets 115mpge. The least efficient vehicles have the biggest impact on the environment.

But I'm aggregate that gets lost in the noise due to the relative volumes.

Small 2 cycle engines like mopeds are the biggest contributor. Then small cars, these luxury cars are a small percent of global emissions.

Also, those people don't have to drive big luxury cars, they can buy these smaller cars.

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