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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the least, probably a good PR move for MS. It's a good move to counter whatever weight would be going against the MS stock price given they made a huge investment into OpenAI.

Precisely why this was all announced into the early morning hours of Monday.

Makes sense why this was posted now.

I hope openai knows what they are doing. They have angered the man that turned microsoft from the dinosaur into the asteroid.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #331

This was expected. Who would possibly think Sam would join MS to be a "senior research" or "VP of engineering"? They get to form a company and run a startup within Microsoft with full Microsoft backing. OpenAI is so over.

I was expecting MSFT to get a board seat and bring them back tbh

Just give it a few months and they can probably get back IP and the remaining OAI assets for nothing.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI's ideas of humanities best interests were like a catholic mom's. Less morals are okay by me.

> OpenAI's ideas of humanities best interests were like a catholic mom's How do you mean? Don’t see what OpenAI has in common with Catholicism or motherhood.

They basically defined AI safety as "AI shouldn't say bad words or tell people how to do drugs" instead of actually making sure that a sufficiently intelligent AI doesn't go rogue against humanity's interests.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Did Microsoft just effectively acquire 100% of OpenAI without actually needing to cross the 49% regulatory hurdle? Depending on who follows them to MSFT, that might actually be the outcome here. And OpenAI is suddenly Xerox Parc.

Except OpenAI didn't write the attention paper.. Google did. So Google is the Xerox

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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I don't buy it. If you listen to Sam and Greg, they want to change the world and bring us into a world of abundance that everyone can participate in. They were the ideators of this "awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company". Microsoft is setup to create shareholder value. That's it. Both of them will eventually find it moot to advance tech so a few folks get richer.

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Sam's history is full of the worst parts of venture capital and startup mindset. He's only an idealist so far as he's good at selling the ideal outcome and drowning out any criticism.

Yeah, let's not forget for example his pyramid scam Worldcon, which attempts to scam people of their biometric info for a few bucks, and is aimed at the poorest underdeveloped countries. "Idealist". Aha, right.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #253

I don't buy it. If you listen to Sam and Greg, they want to change the world and bring us into a world of abundance that everyone can participate in. They were the ideators of this "awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company". Microsoft is setup to create shareholder value. That's it. Both of them will eventually find it moot to advance tech so a few folks get richer.

The world, in general, makes so dramatically much more sense if you just completely ignore everything that everybody says, and instead simply look at the actions of people/organizations/nations, and form your own opinions based upon that. This is even more true in modern times when framing things in the 'right way' (even if completely insincerely) can have a major impact on your ventures, funding/investment availability, and more.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #186

Why are people so excited about Sam and Greg joining Microsoft? The only value Sam brought to OpenAI was connections and being able to bring funding. But that's not something Microsoft needs, so what value does Sam give them?

They're bringing the talent with them, I'm sure that's part of it.

Will be interesting to see how many OpenAI employees leave OpenAI to work at Microsoft.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #253

I don't buy it. If you listen to Sam and Greg, they want to change the world and bring us into a world of abundance that everyone can participate in. They were the ideators of this "awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company". Microsoft is setup to create shareholder value. That's it. Both of them will eventually find it moot to advance tech so a few folks get richer.

And if you buy those flowery words from a non-technical startup founder, the same one behind fucking Worldcoin, I've got a few bridges to offload quick and on the cheap.
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