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Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by CamperBob2 »

swatcoder wrote: post #440
distortionfield wrote: post #421

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This lines up with my general experience with it. It’s quite proficient at turning a decently detailed description into code if I give it the guard rails. I’ve compared it to having a junior developer at your disposal. They could do a lot of damage if they were given prod access but can come back with some surprisingly good results.

Are you at all worried about what happens if we have a generation of human junior developers who just delegate to this artificial junior developer? I do. If too many of our apprentices don’t actually learn how to work the forge, how ready will they be to take over as masters someday themselves? I can see how ChatGPT was useful to the grandparent today , but got very disturbed by what it might portend for tomorrow . N…

We're eventually going to have to give up on the notion that we must understand the inner workings of the things we build. That's arguably starting to happen now. Not 100% sure it's a bad thing, but it's certainly scary.

We've long since reached the point at which no one can be said to be a true polymath ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Man_Who_Knew_Everythi... ). Having lost the ability as individuals to know something about everything, we're now losing the ability to know everything about anything.

I'm pretty sure that while the most popular programming languages today are Python and Javascript, the most popular ones 10 years from now will be English and Mandarin. Everything we know about software development is about to change. It's about time.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by schleck8 »

wfhBrian wrote: post #453
tombert wrote: post #214

I used Google Bard for the first time today specifically because ChatGPT was down. It was honestly perfectly fine, but it has a slightly different tone than ChatGPT that's kind of hard to explain.

People constantly recommend Bard to me, but it returns false and/or misleading info almost every time

I noticed that too, it just doesn't seem that good

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by colinsane »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #382
colinsane wrote: post #283

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> Benefits are too great, and worst that can happen is... going back to where one is now. true only if there's no form of lock-in. OpenAI is partnered with people who have decades of tech + business experience now: if they're not actively increasing that lock-in as we speak then frankly, they suck at their jobs (and i don't think they suck at their jobs).

That's my point - right now there is no lock-in for an individual . You'd have to try really, really hard to become dependent on ChatGPT. So right now is the time to use it.

dependencies have a way of sneaking up on a person. if there was a clear demarcation at which you'd say "they're locking us in: i'm leaving now while i still can!", then that's not the route by which you'll be locked in. yet, even those of us who keep an eye out for these things, we all probably observe ourselves to be locked into one or more things in our life right now: how did each of those happen?

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by sebzim4500 »

m3kw9 wrote: post #161
caleb-allen wrote: post #22

I was gonna say that this is Bard's chance to shine, but it looks like Bard is also having an outage!

Bard is still playing scared, it isn’t even international yet

I'm in the UK and it works fine. I'm assuming people would be throwing a fit if it didn't work in the US, so clearly it is international.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by satvikpendem »

_dark_matter_ wrote: post #455
wfhBrian wrote: post #453

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People constantly recommend Bard to me, but it returns false and/or misleading info almost every time

I had the opposite experience. I was trying to figure out what this weird lightbulb was that I had to replace, and it had no writing on it. I uploaded the description and picture to gpt4, and it just got it clearly wrong over and over. Tried bard, got it right in the first try, with links to the product. I was extremely impressed.

The vast knowledge trove of Google can't be understated, even if sometimes the model isn't as competent at certain tasks as OpenAI's GPT models.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by Alupis »

wfhBrian wrote: post #453
tombert wrote: post #214

I used Google Bard for the first time today specifically because ChatGPT was down. It was honestly perfectly fine, but it has a slightly different tone than ChatGPT that's kind of hard to explain.

People constantly recommend Bard to me, but it returns false and/or misleading info almost every time

What makes you think ChatGPT isn't also returning false and/or misleading info? Maybe you just haven't noticed...

Personally, I struggle with anything even slightly technical from all of the current LLM's. You really have to know enough about the topic to detect BS when you see it... which is a significant problem for those using it as a learning tool.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by notfed »

_dark_matter_ wrote: post #455
wfhBrian wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People constantly recommend Bard to me, but it returns false and/or misleading info almost every time

I had the opposite experience. I was trying to figure out what this weird lightbulb was that I had to replace, and it had no writing on it. I uploaded the description and picture to gpt4, and it just got it clearly wrong over and over. Tried bard, got it right in the first try, with links to the product. I was extremely impressed.

This is almost certainly just delegating to Google Lens, which indeed works great.

Bard's probably just a middle man here.

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