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Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by raydev »

spookie wrote: post #302
raydev wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Functionally, how does this impact observed performance on heavy loads like code compile or video manipulation? I doubt it's not much, and these are the low/mid-tier priced machines we are talking about. If you bought a $2k M2 machine and traded it for a $2k M3 machine, you may gain better battery life with no concessions, except for benchmark measurements (that don't affect your daily work).

These are not low/mid tier machines when talking about "consumer-grade".

Within the MacBook Pro lineup, they are objectively the low and mid-grade pricing tiers.

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Post by keyle »

The best feature to me is really the battery life and the quietness of the laptop. That's a game changer for me. I can work from anywhere comfortable, without burning my palms or legs and in silence.

I remember working on a PC laptop years ago and as soon as you pressed F5 the fans came on cranking for a couple of seconds, it was farcical.

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Post by stouset »

justinclift wrote: post #434
stouset wrote: post #284

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> Wanting to dock onto two displays even at the low end doesn't seem like such a niche use-case. I mean, it almost certainly is? I would guess a majority of the low-end SKUs are rarely if ever attached to one external display. Two would be rarer still.

At a ~recent work place the entire floor of developers had (Intel) MacBook Pros with dual 24" monitors. Some of them were trying out Apple Silicon replacements, though I'm not aware of what they did monitor wise. Probably used the excuse to buy a single large ultrawide each instead, though I don't actually know. ;)

Which workplaces are these that buy low-end laptops for their employees but shell out for dual monitor workstations?

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by vishnugupta »

internet2000 wrote: post #158
koito17 wrote: post #102

One thing that left me a bit confused was the comparison against Intel Macs. Although I am still using an Intel 16-inch MacBook, I really wanted to see how the M3 fared against the M2, not Intel and M1. I think it's no surprise the M3 exceeds the Intel Core i7-9750H in basically all of Apple's own benchmarking. My real question, which will probably be answered next week, is how it compares to the generation right bef…

I imagine the amount of people upgrading from an M2 Mac will be close to 0, while there's a lot of Intel stragglers out there.

Intel straggler here. My laptop just completed 5 years. It says battery needs replacing which I’ve been putting off for a year. The thing is I have 32G which is quite good IMO so I’ll probably use it for two years at least.

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Post by behnamoh »

faizshah wrote: post #36

It’s kind of strange their benchmark for “Machine Learning Programmers” is “Simulation of Dynamical Systems in MATLAB.” Seems like they could have capitalized better by using a generative ai inference benchmark.

Maybe they know M3 is not up for that kind of task.

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Post by whynotminot »

frutiger wrote: post #413
saagarjha wrote: post #307

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Display pipelines are expensive and take area.

Easy to say but hard to prove. How much more expensive would an MBP be if they supported it? How many fewer units would they shift? Those are harder questions to answer. We could assume Apple crunched the numbers. Or perhaps they just stuck to the status quo. Only an insider or decision maker (maybe that’s you) knows.

I think their assumption is that if you’re the kind of pro that needs that many monitors, you’ll upgrade to the better chips they sell.

But it’s a frustrating limitation and remains one of the only areas their old intel based laptops were better at.

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Post by whynotminot »

justinclift wrote: post #434
stouset wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wanting to dock onto two displays even at the low end doesn't seem like such a niche use-case. I mean, it almost certainly is? I would guess a majority of the low-end SKUs are rarely if ever attached to one external display. Two would be rarer still.

At a ~recent work place the entire floor of developers had (Intel) MacBook Pros with dual 24" monitors. Some of them were trying out Apple Silicon replacements, though I'm not aware of what they did monitor wise. Probably used the excuse to buy a single large ultrawide each instead, though I don't actually know. ;)

What dev shop gives their engineers base model machines?

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Post by trekkie1024 »

gnicholas wrote: post #458

"No matter what your passions are in work or in life, there's a Macbook Pro that's perfect for you." For the vast majority of Apple customers, Macbook Airs are plenty powerful. They're also lighter weight, and significantly cheaper.

Looks like the latest MBA is only 0.1 lbs less than the equivalent MBP at 3.4 lbs. Feels like they used to be lighter.
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