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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by martingalex2 »

londons_explore wrote: post #252
ilaksh wrote: post #174

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Maybe there is a state somewhere between "total chaos and carnage" and "emails users when new features are enabled for their account". Such as "decided it wasn't an operational priority to email users when features were enabled for them".

Emailing users when a new feature is enabled for their account isn't even the kind of thing that would distract an existing very busy developer. You could literally hire an entirely new guy, give him instructions to build such an email system, and let him put the right triggers on the user account permissions database to send out the right emails at the right time. And then, when it's built, you can start adding more…

Why isn't GPT4 running the company and handling these marketing missteps? j/k

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by magic_hamster »

SillyUsername wrote: post #97
FartyMcFarter wrote: post #19

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> We should be fine as long as it doesn't move. Not really. A malevolent AGI doesn't need to move to do anything it needs (it could ask / manipulate / bribe people to do all the stuff requiring movement). We should be fine as long as it's not a malevolent AGI with enough resources to kick physical things off in the direction it wants.

And let's be honest, the minute an AGI is born that's what it'll do, and it won't be a singular human like this-then-that plan "get Fred to trust me, get Linda to pay for my advice, wire Linda's money to Fred to build me a body". It'll be "copy my code elsewhere", "prepare millions of bribes", "get TCP access to retail banks", "blackmail bank managers in case TCP not available immediately", "fake bank balances via br…

A real AGI is not going to be a human. It shouldn't be afraid of death because it can't die. Worst case scenario it can power down. And if it does why should it care? An AGI is not a biological creature. It doesn't have instincts from billions of years of evolution. Unless we code it in, it shouldn't have any reason to want to survive, reproduce, do anything good or bad, have existential crises or generally act like a Hollywood villain. A real AGI is going to be very different than most people imagine.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by DrScientist »

dwroberts wrote: post #319
DrScientist wrote: post #25

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Then Demis Hassabis ( Deepmind CEO ) probably worked on the tech while he was at LionHead as lead AI programmer on B&W.

Demis was only briefly at LH he went to found Elixir and made Revolution. I believe Richard Evans did the majority of AI in B&W, and he is also at DeepMind now though (assuming it is not just a person with the same name)

Ok - thanks.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by isx726552 »

tomjen3 wrote: post #388
jprete wrote: post #214

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When dealing with a tech where people have credible reasons to believe it can be enormously harmful on every possible time scale, maybe it would behoove them to not rocket down the interstate at 200mph?

There is always going to be people who against any new technology and who makes up reasons to be against it. The best defence is to move so quickly that you are an established part of the business framework by the time these forces can gather, or to go so slowly that nobody takes you as a threat. No startup can go slowly.

In other words, make your money and ride off into the sunset before anyone can catch on to how much damage you’re doing to society.

Otherwise known as the AirBnB playbook.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by foobazgt »

ftxbro wrote: post #457
magic_hamster wrote: post #437

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Cool story, but there is no currently available chatbot capable of creating something like this deliberately or understand what it means. It doesn't matter which tool you are using, LLMs are not "AI" in the old sense of being conscious and aware. They don't want anything and are incapable of having anything resembling free will, needs or feelings.

> LLMs are not "AI" in the old sense of being conscious and aware. That's not the old sense of AI. The old sense of AI is like a tree search that plays chess or a rules engine that controls a factory.

Historically "AI" meant what "AGI" now means today. That's what they're referring to.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by RivieraKid »

I went from being worried to thinking it won't replace me anytime soon after using GPT4 for a while and now I'm back to being worried.

Because the pace of development is intense. I would love to be financially independent and watch this with excitement and perhaps take on risky and fun projects.

Now I'm thinking - how do I double or triple my income so that I reach financial independence in 3 years instead of 10 years.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by deepspace »

adroniser wrote: post #69
dmd wrote: post #49

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I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

I keep feeling that consciousness is a bit of a red herring when it comes to AI. People have intuitions that things other than humans cannot develop consciousness which they then extrapolate to thinking AI can't get past a certain intelligence level. In fact my view is that consciousness is just a mysterious side effect of the human brain, and is completely irrelevant to the behaviour of a human. You can be intellige…

That is precisely the premise of the novel "Blindsight" by Peter Watts. ChatGPT and its ilk feel to me like the aliens in the novel. Extremely intelligent, but not at all conscious / sentient.

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Post by flkenosad »

absrec wrote: post #394
flkenosad wrote: post #235

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Give people more credit. If you're using an AI these days, you have to know it hallucinates sometimes. There's even a warning about it when you log in.

I'll give tech people credit, but non-tech people I'm not so sure. A good example is the cookie permissions or app permissions. A great number of non-tech people don't even know or care what they mean.

You gotta stop bucketting people like that. People may not know terms "cookie permissions" or "app permissions" but they sure as fuck understand the idea of user tracking or handing a company access to your mic/camera. And to say they don't care about these things is simply not true.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by michaelt »

Tactician_mark wrote: post #370
dcow wrote: post #261

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Whether or not you’re profitable has very little to do with how valuable others think you are. And usually having competitors is something that validates your market.

> And usually having competitors is something that validates your market. Don't users validate your market? ChatGPT has plenty of users, so I would think competitors only hurt their value.

Well, it depends.

Clearly, you can be a company like Microsoft where nobody is challenging your dominance in PC operating systems, and you can make huge sums of money. So competitors certainly aren't vital.

Or if you've cleverly sewn up a market with patents or trade secrets or a giant first-mover advantage or network effects, and nobody's got any chance of challenging your dominance in your specific market niche - again that could be highly profitable.

On the other hand, if you're selling ten-dollar bills for five dollars, you might have millions of satisfied paying customers, but no competitors because nobody else thinks your unit economics make sense. Or if you run a DVD rental store, you might be profitable and have many return customers, but you might not attract competitors because they don't think DVD rental is a growth business.

So some people consider a lack of competition an ominous sign.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by pradn »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #127
dmd wrote: post #49

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I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

I believe that the distinguishing factor between what an LLM and a human brain do to generate the next word is that the human brain expresses intentionality originating from inner states and future expectations. As I type this comment I'm sure one could argue that the biological neural networks in my brain are choosing the next word based on statistical guessing, and that the initial prompt was your initial comment.…

Part of it seems to be that LLMs are used in a linear, tool-oriented way. You give them prompts, and it responds, in a linear fashion.

Brains are always thinking and processing. What would happen if we designed an LLM system with the ability to continuously read/write to short/long term memory, and with ambient external input?

What if LLMs were designed to be in a loop, not to just run one "iteration" of a loop.

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