iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by scarface_74 » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:41 PM UTC

dahwolf wrote: post #420

The entire announcement is an exercise in masking that they're running out of ideas. Excessive lectures on environmental footprint. Lots of cultural/humanitarian story telling, a pile of non-relatable tech info where they only briefly showed the embarrassing "up to 10% faster", dull/static presenters with their fake excitement. Even the Pro model, typically the only model where they might add some actual features of…

It wasn’t “simple” 15 years ago if you wanted water resistance.

And before you trot out the Samsung phones, if you didn’t put the battery in securely (and it warned you on the screen) you lost water resistance. It also required a rubber flap to be closed on the headphone jack.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by TheAtomic » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:41 PM UTC

Is Nvidia about to have an iPhone moment? Nvidia releases an AI-based phone with an assistant you talk to, no other UI necessary. It could remain aware during calls like an available assistant so you can direct it to do follow up tasks, like check calendars, etc. It could completely change the paradigm and disrupt Apple's business model entirely.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by gnicholas » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:41 PM UTC

accrual wrote: post #421

gnicholas wrote: post #26

IMO, this was a pretty weak announcement. They spent so long talking about environmental stuff, like getting rid of leather, that it felt like they were trying to pad the presentation to reach a reasonable length. There were a few new things (more optical zoom, slightly smaller bezels), but these were all leaked in advance. I was also disappointed to hear that the satellite stuff is limited to 2 years. Is it going to…

> but these were all leaked in advance. Does being leaked in advance have anything to do with their presentation? "Oh that was leaked, I guess we shouldn't bother mentioning it".

Not strictly speaking, but in this case there were hardly and exciting leaks. Some people care about USB-C (I don’t), and some people care about the new zoom levels (I do, but not enough to buy an enormous phone).

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by jjoonathan » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:42 PM UTC

dahwolf wrote: post #420

The entire announcement is an exercise in masking that they're running out of ideas. Excessive lectures on environmental footprint. Lots of cultural/humanitarian story telling, a pile of non-relatable tech info where they only briefly showed the embarrassing "up to 10% faster", dull/static presenters with their fake excitement. Even the Pro model, typically the only model where they might add some actual features of…

"What losers, they didn't even change the world this year!"

That's unkind. The forward extrapolation is unkind and untrue: Generative Siri and AR are clearly in the pipeline. You can see the infrastructure if you look.

It may be worth forcing replaceable batteries with legislation, but I'm inclined to wait until after AR settles to do it, since executing on AR will involve pushing the limits of what's possible with battery/display/compute tech.

Remember those memes of people looking down at phones and running into telephone poles / glass / wet concrete? Those will come back once there's a good alternative.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by spacecadet » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:42 PM UTC

dahwolf wrote: post #420

The entire announcement is an exercise in masking that they're running out of ideas. Excessive lectures on environmental footprint. Lots of cultural/humanitarian story telling, a pile of non-relatable tech info where they only briefly showed the embarrassing "up to 10% faster", dull/static presenters with their fake excitement. Even the Pro model, typically the only model where they might add some actual features of…

I once met an Apple engineer at the first iphone centric WWDC, they told me... in quotes, but not a quote- "the products that wow people are the ones that steve uses himself, if steve doesnt us it, its shows"

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by gnicholas » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:42 PM UTC

whycome wrote: post #413

gnicholas wrote: post #26

IMO, this was a pretty weak announcement. They spent so long talking about environmental stuff, like getting rid of leather, that it felt like they were trying to pad the presentation to reach a reasonable length. There were a few new things (more optical zoom, slightly smaller bezels), but these were all leaked in advance. I was also disappointed to hear that the satellite stuff is limited to 2 years. Is it going to…

Was it only weak because you knew about the new things in advance? The switch to USBC seems pretty significant. As well as the 3mm chip in the pro models.

The move to USB-C is a big deal for some people, but it’s hardly a headline feature for a new phone. The new manufacturing technique is nice, but only if it translates into tangible benefits for the user (which were not apparent from the presentation).

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by bdavbdav » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:43 PM UTC

ulkesh wrote: post #320

So the only compelling reason to upgrade from the 14 is...USB-C, where people are saying the 15 (non-Pro) runs at USB2 speeds? This was one of the most lackluster Apple launches in recent memory. I long for the day when Apple actually innovated on this product line. Now they're simply treading water and only making good changes when forced to (EU requiring USB-C). I will give credit where it is due for Apple -- the M…

What are you doing with USB data on it?

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by Synaesthesia » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:44 PM UTC

nowooski wrote: post #342

It's pretty wild that Apple has held prices down the last few years in the face of elevated inflation. I decided to calculate the inflation-adjusted price of every iPhone ever, and the 15 line are some of the most affordable (in 2023 dollars). Full table and charts are here: https://www.perfectrec.com/posts/iPhone15-price But the take aways are: - iPhone 15 is cheapest base model since the OG iPhone in 2007 - 15 Plus…

For people in the US yes, overseas they are famously overpriced. Here in South Africa the cost of an iPhone is ridiculous.

Re: iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:44 PM UTC

dahwolf wrote: post #420

The entire announcement is an exercise in masking that they're running out of ideas. Excessive lectures on environmental footprint. Lots of cultural/humanitarian story telling, a pile of non-relatable tech info where they only briefly showed the embarrassing "up to 10% faster", dull/static presenters with their fake excitement. Even the Pro model, typically the only model where they might add some actual features of…

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Post by mikepurvis » Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 8:44 PM UTC

kaba0 wrote: post #262

bambax wrote: post #151

> USB-C is going to mean I can get rid of all these lightning cables Bought a Motorola G6 in 2018 for €199. It takes "fantastic" photos, and came in a "stunning new" (!?) color of black(ish). It's pretty much indestructible, runs Firefox with uBlock Origin, and it's "better for the environment" because every year you don't buy a new phone, the environment is happy. It also has USB-C, and a 3.5 jack.

Then buy a used iphone, which will not be made obsolete a year later due to lack of software updates, but continue to get new ones for 8 years and actually has the hardware capabilities to drive it for that long.

This is what I do. I just upgraded last year from an iPhone 6 to 8, and it's working great for me. The next stop would be an 11 I think, and that's only if I end up getting into the Peak Design ecosystem and the dashboard mount's built-in wireless charging capability doesn't work with an 8.