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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by thatxliner »

karaterobot wrote: post #82

Pinterest was certainly the first site I blocked. I've never understood the hate for w3schools. No, it's not MDN, but it's not offensively bad either, and it's been a helpful reference from time to time. If w3schools comes up first in a search, I trust that it probably has the answer to whatever very simple question I must have asked, unlike something like Pinterest, which will just be spam no matter what.

> I've never understood the hate for w3schools.

Same. It's been my go to reference for SQL these days. Unless there's some alternative that I've missed out on

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by 0xffff2 »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #77

I actually did a smaller thing for HN. I have client side JS that blocks results from a few domains that seemed to promote low quality discussions and/or irrelevant submissions. const boringDomains = [ "newyorker.com", "nytimes.com", "economist.com", "wired.co.uk", "bbc.com", "aella.substack.com", "hecolumn.substack.com", "wsj.com", "kqed", "voanews.com", "wusa9.com", "noemamag.com", "arstechnica.com", "independent.c…

By far the most surprising thing about this comment to me is that Aella's substack gets posted here often enough to make it on this list.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by arealaccount »

freediver wrote: post #169
arealaccount wrote: post #110

Tried out a few searches that I’ve recently struggled with on both DDG and Google, very impressed. Seems worth it, especially if I can get a license through work. I wonder how they will keep their results shielded from SEO spam if they hit a critical mass. Presumably Google would love to have useful results beneath all their ads, but can’t seem to win over all of the “organic” blogs.

> I wonder how they will keep their results shielded from SEO spam if they hit a critical mass. We mitigate SEO spam effectively by downranking websites that use ads or trackers. SEO spam websites predominantly rely on ads for monetization, which makes them easily detectable. This strategy of combating ads in every form, everywhere, has proven to be an efficient method for prioritizing high-quality web results.

I know this isn’t a support channel, but is there a way to use Kagi with Firefox Focus on iOS without having to go through the login flow each time? I’d be happy to open some intermediary app or something.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by Dah00n »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #439
Dah00n wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exploit is likely the wrong word as it isn't Pinterest doing something shady. It is more of a Google flaw and I'm sure Google sees it for what it is and hence they don't de-rank a site for doing nothing wrong. But yes, they could fix it. However if it keeps you searching maybe they don't want to.

> Exploit is likely the wrong word as it isn't Pinterest doing something shady. It is more of a Google flaw and I'm sure Google sees it for what it is and hence they don't de-rank a site for doing nothing wrong. I don't think argument takes exploit off the table. It just doesn't address it. Same thing for Pinterest's shady behavior.

I don't see any shady or exploit-y SEO at Pinterest. Unless I'm missing something the problem is strictly a Google problem.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by trubeliever »

OJFord wrote: post #354
maccard wrote: post #348

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Alternatively, you're only willing to pay roughly the cost of a coffee per month for something you deem as a killer feature for everyday use.

I didn't say it was a 'killer feature', I said 'now I know I want it'. There are very many things I want but not at the price they cost! I don't think coffee's a great analogy - it has far more utility for me, I don't buy it as a service, and it costs me roughly £24 (what, $30ish) a month in beans. I'm not seriously suggesting it because I think comparing prices of different things to determine value very quickly get…

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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by trubeliever »

o1y32 wrote: post #363
nottorp wrote: post #295

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2 Starbucks lattes i think? Elsewhere the lattes are much cheaper though. Common problem with a lot of SaaS offerings. I made a Kagi account when they had a free tier, thinking I'll test and then decide on paying or not. Then they dropped the free tier and with the # of trial searches limited, I'd need to make a conscious effort to use it to test instead of just trying it when DDG fails me, which was the initial plan…

Not everyone has the same spending habits. I (in the US) happen to know that none of my colleagues buy Starbucks or any other shop coffee on a regular basis. Although we are paid a decent (although not high) salary and can easily afford this without thinking, I don't see people eagerly spend $25/month on this. Not to mention $25 is very different in other countries.

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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by fsflover »

maccard wrote: post #347
Gareth321 wrote: post #309

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There is a lot of value currently tied up in crypto around the world, with increasing difficulty in using it on products and services. Offering a way to use this value would open additional revenue streams for Kagi. The challenge is in conversion, as many banks do not support the practise, and laws are becoming tougher with regards to crypto payments.

That doesn't sound particularly valuable to me. If it's that valuable, why don't you convert it to USD and pay Kagi with that?

Anonymity?

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by noitpmeder »

barrysteve wrote: post #456

This is a clear violation of Kagi's privacy policy. We will be good stewards of any personal information you share with us. We promise not to share your data with anyone else in any way, shape or form, except as needed to perform explicitly accessed services. Kagi's entire business is funded by its users and we have no intention to or interest in manipulating or monetizing user information in any way. How many months…

I totally agree. I'm not sure how they can rationalize sharing this information with that privacy policy unless they let users opt into a "Kagi is allowed to use my private preferences to aggregate and share statistics."

I totally see the appeal to share these statistics, but they are literally breaking their policy here.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by toyg »

Nextgrid wrote: post #157
scarmig wrote: post #33

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Didn't Google have this feature like two decades ago (blocks, at least)? It's not quite a search innovation, more like a "caring about your users as a business strategy" innovation.

People would use it to block all the spam sites that host copious amounts of (potentially Google's) Ads/Analytics, and since they might actually start finding what they're looking for this will reduce engagement on the search results page and with the sponsored links. This is bad for Google's bottom-line thus why such a feature was removed and will never be coming back.

Enshittification classic.
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