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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by racl101 »

frob wrote: post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

Is Bill Gates even making decisions at this point? It's weird. When Microsoft does something good it's credited to Satya Nadella but when they do bad shit, it seems to be blamed on Ballmer or Gates. lol

Shouldn't it all, good or bad, be attributed to Satya Nadella at this point?

Or does the great CEO lack agency?

Even weirder, for some reason people have no issues blaming Google's sorry state directly on Sundar Pichai.

shrug

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by n_sd »

acomjean wrote: post #89

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

Just a side note. You might be meaning GNU/Linux instead of Linux.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by lucb1e »

acomjean wrote: post #89

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

> 'with added "trust of microsoft"'

To be fair, you trust Microsoft to be your OS. Installing another browser means that there are now two parties that could be malicious or hacked (distribute a compromised update) rather than one.

FWIW, I run Firefox on Debian Linux and an open source browser on Android as well (so no Safari hijacking going on either), but I can see valid logic in their statement ...even if they might not themselves have considered whether this is true before using it as marketing

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by BudaDude »

twobitshifter wrote: post #429
madars wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget making SMS in unreadable neon green (to the point that it violates Apple's own accessibility guidelines https://archive.is/4nSWV ) "iMessage on Android would simply serve to remove [an] obstacle to iPhone families giving their kids Android phones" -- an actual quote from the SVP of Software Engineering in charge of iOS, revealed in Epic Games v Apple court discovery https://storage.courtlistener.com/reca…

The color thing is an urban legend. Original iPhone chat bubbles were green pre-Apple having an alternative to SMS. The messages icon is green. For some reason Apple thought messages should be green.

It's not that its green thats the issue, is the shade of green they chose. It does not contrast well with white text and makes it hard to read.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by skc »

yrro wrote: post #227
karlerss wrote: post #125

The web based outlook is an extremely well-polished and usable piece of software. You can use it in any browser you like.

It runs like treacle, gobbles memory and pegs my CPU. It's truly, utterly awful.

For you.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by lucb1e »

dietr1ch wrote: post #153
wongarsu wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has an equally annoying crusade against anything that isn't Chrome. Visit google.com with Edge (on desktop) and you immediately get a popup on the top right "Google recommends using Chrome. Built for Windows. Easily search on Google with the fast, secure browser". As if there was any material difference between the browsers. We need a comeback of antitrust enforcement with teeth to get both Microsoft and Googl…

I'd say it's far better because messing at the OS level is straight out evil. On Firefox I can stand the suggestion to use Chrome when I use google, I can even block it with uBlock, but haven't really bothered to. Now, when they keep tweaking my OS settings, and use every upgrade as the excuse to reset my browser settings over and over, then I get mad. When I get ads on my start menu too. That's why I don't use windo…

This doesn't make much sense to me

> I can even block it with uBlock

You can also block such things in your OS. It requires more expertise to modify machine code rather than obfuscated HTML, but in the end, it's cosmetically altering software to make it look the way you want it to.

Equal levels of 'evil' either way, to me

If they had gone out of their way to add DRM specifically to the pop-up (detecting div deletion for the web version, for example), that would be more evil, but such things aren't being done for showing browser advertisements (might come as a side effect for Windows licensing, but one who chooses to employ licensed software naturally invites that)

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by flagrant_taco »

scarface_74 wrote: post #455
flagrant_taco wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shipping a device that will overheat and reboot when the device is a couple years old and fixing it by silently throttling the device isn't pro consumer either Those devices really should have been recalled or offered a generous trade-in value to account for the fundamental design flaw

Have you found a new battery technology where that is mid the case?

Device design is always constrained by the current technology. It isn't impossible to make a phone with current battery tech that doesn't overheat after a year or two of normal use

Apple just pushed design to far and underestimated the cooling/heat dissipation required

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by lucb1e »

gabereiser wrote: post #102
hospitalJail wrote: post #94

The final straw for me and Windows was when I took the time to remove some annoying feature, cortana or edge, can't remember. Then an update replaced my work. It wasnt some 'uninstall program', but a multi-step process that involved registry editing. I don't feel like I have control over Windows.

You never had control over windows. Not since the ME/XP days. You don’t have control over MacOS either. The only OS you have any control over is Linux and even some of those you don’t.

I suppose they weren't as obnoxious/desperate about it in the past, though. I feel like past methods were more about lawsuits and software patents than about annoying every individual consumer that paid for your damn product

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by lucb1e »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #149

Obligatory reminder Microsoft has been pulling bullshit like this (and worse) for over 30 years, at least as far back as the AARD code. https://www.geoffchappell.com/notes/windows/archive/aard/ind...

> Some programs and drivers in some pre-release builds of Windows 3.1 include code that tests for execution on MS-DOS and displays a disingenuous error message if Windows is run on some other type of DOS. The message tells of a “Non-fatal error” and advises the user to “contact Windows 3.1 beta support”. Some programs in the released build include the code and the error message, and even execute the code, performing the same tests, but without acting on the result to display the error message.

> The code in question has become known widely as the AARD code, named after initials that are found within.

From your link, for those not in the know

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