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Post by sickcodebruh »

alexjplant wrote: post #202
sickcodebruh wrote: post #91

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Add drum mixes panned from the audience perspective instead of drummer perspective and you’ve got my vote.

I always mix audience perspective because I usually stand in front of the drum kit when I see bands live. Do most people stand behind them? Am I doing something wrong?

Speaking as a drummer and sometimes producer, the only people likely to have strong opinions about this are drummers. All of my drummer friends agree: audience mixes make some albums unlistenable on headphones. Nobody else will notice either way, so mix drummer perspective on the off chance that the drummers listening will appreciate it.

Live albums get a pass, of course. And yes, lefty drummers exist. If a lefty drummer wants their kit panned the way they hear it, that is of course fine.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by ummonk »

hackinthebochs wrote: post #310
Maxion wrote: post #21

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Huh? All subreddits that have ran votes, the community has been in majority favor of closing.

Very likely non-representative due to sampling bias and brigading.

r/pics had 56,000 votes. That would be quite a lot of brigading... https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/14b2a6q/poll_decide_o...

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by spopejoy »

alexjplant wrote: post #453
slim wrote: post #434

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yes, you are doing it wrong. drummer is not drumming from the audience perspective

Duly noted. Next time I mic up a speaker cab I'll stick the microphone where the guitarist's head is instead of on the speaker grill. In all seriousness this topic falls squarely into the square of "strong opinion, weakly held" as far as I'm concerned - nobody except people like us actually cares. That being said I've yet to hear a cogent argument for the contrary position... I make music for the audience, not for mu…

I think a rational argument for it is that stereo panning of drumkit elements are not something you can hear from the audience, and maybe even from the stage. Can anybody even remember having the "audience" stereo experience in real life? You'd have to be standing right in front of the drumkit.

Whereas drummers actually experience this panning configuration in real life, and when you're placing the mics in the mix, that's the set of ears you're trying to mimic, really because there isn't any _other_ set of ears to opine. And it's an important one because it provides the lion's share of the stereo image.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by aerio »

notahacker wrote: post #102
SanderNL wrote: post #46

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Wouldn’t a properly prompted LLM be an OK mod?

"You are a bad user. I am a good Bing."

This kills me, everytime.

Will the future be Star Trek or Dune as far as AI is concerned?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by brightlancer »

post-it wrote: post #278
EA-3167 wrote: post #174

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I feel like the crazies ranting about "white erasure" are making it harder to criticize these race-reboots on the grounds they should be criticized for: laziness. Mediocre products where the selling point is, "we swapped races, give us points," remain mediocre and are unbelievably lazy compared to what we should see... which is new and interesting things with diversity baked in. Unfortunately the hysterical racists a…

It's like calling a song lazy because it uses the same chords as another song. Gender/race-bent remakes are still entirely original works with new scripts and new shots. Even if they were to keep the script the same and make a shot-for-shot remake with new actors and a new crew, that's still 99% new work that's being done. I'd watch a shot-for-shot remake of something like Star Wars with a gender-swapped cast, that s…

> Gender/race-bent remakes are still entirely original works with new scripts and new shots.

That's not what the word "original" means.

Sequels, adaptations, remakes, reboots, etc. are not "entirely original" because they're using existing stories or characters.

Whether you like those works or not, it's flat out _false_ to call them "entirely original".

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

dsir wrote: post #331
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #321

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But how does it work? Who moderates the communities?

Anyone can create a community. It's up to the community owners to decide the mod teams and moderation rules they want their community to abide by. We are looking at leveraging AI to assist the communities moderators. Here's a list of the core community features: 1. Customizable discussion boards. Community owners can setup threaded discussion boards for different topics related to their niche. Say a user creates a co…

That’s actually quite a good idea. Reddit become increasingly shit as people join a subreddit. Being able to restrict new users to a specific subforum and have topic forums would cut down on the trash.

There’s definitely possibilities there.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by LordDragonfang »

ramesh31 wrote: post #431
LordDragonfang wrote: post #427

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Same question, what specific "group think" are you so concerned is happening on reddit? (Also, you are now banned from /r/pyongyang)

> Same question, what specific "group think" are you so concerned is happening on reddit? Try posting literally anything contrary to the party line on any noteworthy sub, and see how long it takes you to get banned. Particularly with a new account. I haven't bothered posting anything on that site in years because it's a 50/50 crap shoot whether it will even be seen, or that the post I just spent 5 minutes of my life…

Once again, I'm astonished at how different our experiences can be, since I'm a frequent commentor and I literally cannot remember the last time a comment of mine got deleted.

I notice you did not answer my question though. And I have to wonder what you're posting that you keep needing new accounts. As someone once said, 'If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you keep getting banned and having your comments deleted, maybe you're the problem'

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by brightlancer »

potatolicious wrote: post #261
hbn wrote: post #47

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I have a feeling they won't have a hard time finding deranged weirdos who want to mod and will remove anything that could in any way raise an eyebrow of advertisers/payment processors/etc The worst mods for the community will be the best mods for reddit's bottom line. The power-tripping is payment in itself for those types.

> "The worst mods for the community will be the best mods for reddit's bottom line." Will it though? Twitter's moderation policies have all but collapsed and the net result is a near-total flight of high-profile high-dollar advertisers. Like others have mentioned in the thread, the people who will most likely want to take over these subs are going to be some combination of bigots, cranks, and the severely deranged. T…

> Like others have mentioned in the thread, the people who will most likely want to take over these subs are going to be some combination of bigots, cranks, and the severely deranged. That doesn't seem like it will do good things for user participation or advertiser attractiveness.

So why would Reddit do it?

More likely, Reddit will pick moderators who are extremely advertiser friendly and who will squash "controversial" viewpoints -- as we've seen on other sites/ services, those "controversial" viewpoints are things like the precautionary principle, biological sex, free speech, free assembly, freedom of conscience, etc.

What supports the argument that it will go to "bigots, cranks and the severely deranged"?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by brightlancer »

dale_glass wrote: post #226
ramesh31 wrote: post #153

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>So thank you for staying away. And this is exactly why Reddit has gone to hell. Mods with that attitude. "I was here first, so therefore I get to unilaterally set the Overton window for all discussion herein. If you don't like it, you're banned." HN seems to be the last place on the internet where competing thoughts can exist. It's amazing to me that if moderation is so hard, why dang can do such a good job single-h…

> And this is exactly why Reddit has gone to hell. Mods with that attitude. "I was here first, so therefore I get to unilaterally set the Overton window for all discussion herein. If you don't like it, you're banned." You can always create your own and be the first over there. I agree though that there are some problems with the model, such as a long gone head mod suddenly poking back in and doing something radical,…

> You can always create your own and be the first over there.

And be the only one over there.

If r/keyboards devolves, sure, someone can create r/seriouskeyboards, but that doesn't mean anyone will join them. First, there are already X orders of magnitude subscribed to r/keyboards; second, if a new user is looking for a group on keyboards, they're more likely to investigate r/keyboards than r/adjectivekeyboards.

"If you don't like it then make your own" ignores all of the realities involved. It's arrogant and dismissive.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by brightlancer »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #427
lordloki wrote: post #404

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>the rules used to curate a specific community Or ensure group think.

Same question, what specific "group think" are you so concerned is happening on reddit? (Also, you are now banned from /r/pyongyang)

> Same question, what specific "group think" are you so concerned is happening on reddit?

For more than a year, a handful of powermods were banning users which discussed the _possibility_ that SARS-CoV-2 was less dangerous than the media and politicians were claiming (now we have the data and it was less dangerous) or discussed the _possibility_ that the COVID vaccines were less effective or had worse side effects than the media and politicians were claiming (we now have the data and they were less effective and had worse side effects). These mods, who run the default subreddits, were banning users for posting in other subs which permitted such discussions -- that's right, if you posted in a sub that critically discussed what was going on, you'd get banned from default subs like r/pics and r/tifu.

I could list at least a hundred personal examples that had nothing to do with SARS-CoV-2 (usually opposing the American leftwing hive mind), but it's too easy for someone to just dismiss those as unsupported personal anecdotes. OTOH, it was well documented how Reddit shut down discussion re: SARS-CoV-2, as many other sites and services did.

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