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Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by TheCaptain4815 »

miniBill wrote: post #438
TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #428

As I’ve continued to repeat, a change in user preference (mostly from one ideology) is to blame for this. Reddit went from pretty much complete free speech to one of the most censored websites in existence. Huge portions of America now prefer censorship so Reddit has in essence created a moat for themselves. If Americans were more accepting of all speech like before, Reddit clones would be easy to switch to. Now, you…

No? This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or censorship. What are you on about? [nitpicky note: it's iOS, not IOS - the latter being Cisco's one]

If the original Reddit popped up today it would be rejected by most users for allowing certain content, and rejected by all marketplace stores for the same thing.

This in turn gives Reddit much more control and a very powerful moat.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by tomrod »

behnamoh wrote: post #423
wpietri wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traffic is down modestly, revenue is down dramatically, outages are up, bugs are up, abuse is up, many users have departed, and the value of the company has fallen by something between half and two thirds. One of its core assets, the blue checkmark for verified notable accounts, has been permanently destroyed. I no longer use it, but word from my friends who still do is that is has become grimmer, less fun. Musk has…

I don't notice any of the things you mentioned. As a user, I haven't felt much difference before and after Musk's takeover. If anything, I think Twitter is a little bit better and more vibrant now, because the censorship is not like before. Yes, lot's of people tried Mastodon as an alternative, but I still see almost all my followees on Twitter.

Your comments reminds me of the metaphor of boiling a frog.

Twitters users, the advertisers, have noticed. Thus the revenue decrease. Twitter's product, sets of eyeballs, are still around (despite being compositionally a different population, mostly).

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by seydor »

khalladay wrote: post #29

Does subreddits going dark for 2 days matter? Seems like an insignificant ampunt of disruption to make much of a difference, or am I wrong?

If they do it for more than 2 days , other subs will spring up

Do people forget that making a subreddit is free?

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by OldManRyan »

mrtksn wrote: post #460
OldManRyan wrote: post #448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens if reddit crosses that line is completely up to community response. People could go on as usual and nothing happens or there could be an even more visceral backlash. History says business as usual but no one really knows what would happen.

There's no real community though. I have 12 y/o account with over 15K post karma and 35K comment karma and I don't care the slightest. The place has grown too big to feel like a community, if anything, I'm worried that r/StableDiffusion might go away because there are is so much chronological high quality content of the development of stable diffusion. I tracked down my first comment about how "reddit is dead", it's…

reddit is not a community. The subreddits are the community. I don't care about reddit as a whole but there are individual subreddits that if they change or go away then I no longer have a reason to use reddit.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by _djo_ »

bardfinn wrote: post #420
wpietri wrote: post #11

Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.

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Nonsense. The API had clear terms of service that allowed for third party clients, and Reddit explicitly promoted and supported them in the past. The current Reddit app was even built on one such app (Alien Blue) that Reddit acquired.

For a platform hosting user generated content and with volunteer moderation having third party clients is usually a net positive despite the small loss in advertising revenue, purely because they have a very positive impact on content creation and curation. That keeps passive users coming to the site so they can be advertised to.

At some point after a platform matures there needs to be some additional monetisation of third party clients, especially as they begin to capture a larger share of users. It doesn’t have to result in the clients being killed off entirely.

Reddit is nothing without people voluntarily adding content to the site and good moderators voluntarily running subreddits. That’s especially true for special interest and high quality subs like AskHistorians.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by DamnInteresting »

eksapsy wrote: post #361

Strike you say? That's like, as Louis Rossmann on his yt channel wisely said, "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life". Like it's literally like saying "hey I need you in my life". Do you know what message that sends? What would you think if your customers would say "hey Im not gonna come for 3 days but I'm coming for the r…

> "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life".

"for the rest of my life" is a big assumption. This strike could/should be the first in a series of escalating strikes. If parties truly seek change, and not just punishment, it is tactically unwise for one's first response to be maximum retaliation.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by seydor »

afavour wrote: post #48
khalladay wrote: post #29

Does subreddits going dark for 2 days matter? Seems like an insignificant ampunt of disruption to make much of a difference, or am I wrong?

Don’t you remember the Reddit net neutrality blackout? That did… uh… raise… awareness… kinda?

does anybody remember what net neutrality was about? That's right redditors memory is probably less than 48h long

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Post by davemp »

I’m planning to build up an RSS feed or two to stay up to date with the niches I go to reddit for and supplementing with discord when I want to read general comments.

I’m actually somewhat excited because the quality of most subreddits has tanked over time.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by mrtksn »

OldManRyan wrote: post #464
mrtksn wrote: post #460

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no real community though. I have 12 y/o account with over 15K post karma and 35K comment karma and I don't care the slightest. The place has grown too big to feel like a community, if anything, I'm worried that r/StableDiffusion might go away because there are is so much chronological high quality content of the development of stable diffusion. I tracked down my first comment about how "reddit is dead", it's…

reddit is not a community. The subreddits are the community. I don't care about reddit as a whole but there are individual subreddits that if they change or go away then I no longer have a reason to use reddit.

Are these subs small or large?
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