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I wonder if anyone will feel brave enough to wear this on a bike... Until the time they're arrested for using a smartphone while biking, or for relying on the computer not to malfunction just to avoid riding blind.

Skiing was what I was wondering.

Specialized AR goggles exist. Not for me but I guess I can understand the appeal to some.

https://ostloong.com/sirius/

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I use quite a few Apple products every day of the last 10 years, and I’m very impressed with certainly all the technology and reviews and explanations of how this device works and what the user experience will be. However, this is the first Apple device that really makes me pause. All of the marketing material, the WWDC videos, all of it feels very uncomfortable to see all these people isolating themselves in a room…

I don't know if you've ever seen Serial Experiments Lain. In it the protagonist slowly descends into an underground of hackers while finding herself isolated in a room with all sorts of mid 90s aesthetic crt monitors, servers, tubes and wires. And that is more what my current office looks like as opposed to someone hanging out on a couch wearing this headset. If the user interface is to be believed you can in theory…

I'm hoping for more of a Dennou Coil future myself.

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I use quite a few Apple products every day of the last 10 years, and I’m very impressed with certainly all the technology and reviews and explanations of how this device works and what the user experience will be. However, this is the first Apple device that really makes me pause. All of the marketing material, the WWDC videos, all of it feels very uncomfortable to see all these people isolating themselves in a room…

It'll become accepted I'm sure, if it breaks through; could anyone have imagined walking into a living room 30 years ago [0] and seeing everyone hunched over a phone? Or 80 years ago and seeing everyone around a television? I mean I get what you mean, but I also think that some things get normalized in subsequent generations. Our 15 year old and his gf have their phones out at all times, frequently switching to inter…

Yes people imagined that. There's a movie about the company General Magic where you will see people filmed at the time imagining just that.

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VR has been "just about to become mainstream" my entire career. I'm quite old now. Perhaps it'll break through before I retire.

That said, the same thing was true about video phones, to the point that everyone assumed humans do not need to see each other on a phone call. Then we had a pandemic and things changed.

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> could anyone have imagined walking into a living room 30 years ago and seeing everyone hunched over a phone? True, but I don't recall smartphones ever being unveiled with promotional videos of people all being hunched over them at dinner. Smartphones were promoted by enabling us to do things on the go: making and receiving phone calls, getting directions, finding restaurants in the area. This is why this feels diff…

I wonder if anyone will feel brave enough to wear this on a bike... Until the time they're arrested for using a smartphone while biking, or for relying on the computer not to malfunction just to avoid riding blind.

I'm thinking it might have an onboard battery that affords a few minutes after the current battery is depleted to allow hot swaps.

Not a great solution to using these in such situations, because bugs as you say, but it might be a feature that allows people to feel so daring. Oof.

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I think it was MKBHD who seems to know his stuff

How many industrial design projects has he done, though? He doesn’t have any particular expertise in the area so while it’s fair to ask why they picked the trade-offs they did, it’s pretty far-fetched to think one of the best industrial design teams in the world forgot about a primary success factor, especially given how much other effort they made to hit weight targets. Absent someone who’s actually worked in the fi…

> one of the best industrial design teams in the world forgot about a primary success factor,

Is this the same team who came up with a phone that bends in the pocket?

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post #315

I use quite a few Apple products every day of the last 10 years, and I’m very impressed with certainly all the technology and reviews and explanations of how this device works and what the user experience will be. However, this is the first Apple device that really makes me pause. All of the marketing material, the WWDC videos, all of it feels very uncomfortable to see all these people isolating themselves in a room…

I don't disagree, however when was the last time you walked into a room where at least one person wasn't solely focused on their phone. The 3D photo thing is super weird, they could release a stand alone camera in future, BUT, I think this is a v1 product, imagine where it'll be in 5 years time, or an SE model which isn't wrap around. I already wear glasses so having AR glasses is no big leap.

I think it's weird because the example they used of the birthday is trying too hard to be family-friendly and social.

The HoloLens had some great examples of highlighting where to hit a mechanism to make it work. I have no idea if it was any good in reality.

That doesn't work for Apple, at least not for advertising.

I think it would have been neat to have shown a sports person/dancer/musician looking through the eyes of their instructor to correct their posture, etc. Or at least show them reviewing the recording together.

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Hit me this morning they never showed anyone working with files.

Can’t believe after the failed attempts to kill files on iPhone and iPad they’ve learned nothing and still think we can pretend a professional work tool can exist without a proper file system.

Not saying it should have desktop icons strewn across your living room, just that the “files siloed in apps transferring via share buttons” iPad model is objectively productivity hell and puts mental load menu fumbling where MacOS is instinctive drag and drop.

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post #315

I use quite a few Apple products every day of the last 10 years, and I’m very impressed with certainly all the technology and reviews and explanations of how this device works and what the user experience will be. However, this is the first Apple device that really makes me pause. All of the marketing material, the WWDC videos, all of it feels very uncomfortable to see all these people isolating themselves in a room…

I don't know if you've ever seen Serial Experiments Lain. In it the protagonist slowly descends into an underground of hackers while finding herself isolated in a room with all sorts of mid 90s aesthetic crt monitors, servers, tubes and wires. And that is more what my current office looks like as opposed to someone hanging out on a couch wearing this headset. If the user interface is to be believed you can in theory…

The dystopia is corporate control and the lack of freedom to hack our device as we wish.

Re: Notes on Vision Pro

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post #315

I use quite a few Apple products every day of the last 10 years, and I’m very impressed with certainly all the technology and reviews and explanations of how this device works and what the user experience will be. However, this is the first Apple device that really makes me pause. All of the marketing material, the WWDC videos, all of it feels very uncomfortable to see all these people isolating themselves in a room…

The video call virtual avatar literally looks like a reanimated corpse. Like honestly if you were directing a sci fi movie where you were talking to a brain in a tank “that doesn’t know he’s dead yet” that’s how you’d art direct it.

Can see it becoming a faux pas to answer a video call as the creepy avatar.

I know Zuck got clowned on for the horizon avatars but at least they were just lame and low quality, not outright creepy/gross.

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