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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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> A friend who was planning to meet Lee in Miami this weekend told The Standard that Lee had been in San Francisco on business, had stayed an extra day and was killed on that day. I am genuinely curious to know how SF residents feel about this.

Time to bring back Dirty Harry.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

> SF is becoming incredibly dangerous.

Source?

> Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime.

Source?

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Disappointed to see this purely emotional appeal to partisan politics as the top comment. Bring statistics next time, show that the city is actually more dangerous than other big cities (especially conservative big cities), and show that policy changes are to blame. Don't use HN as a dumping ground for your political opinions.

EDIT: Wow, I seem to have struck a nerve. To those of you who downvote my comment: I'm not saying what my parent comment claims is incorrect (though I have my doubts). I'm saying it's just a set of unsubstantiated opinions. Maybe those opinions reflect reality, but if they do, you should be able to show that using statistics. If this offends you, maybe consider whether your own stance on the issue is based in reality or if it's a result of emotional appeals such as my parent comment.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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My family has lived in SF since the 1800s. I recently moved because it has gotten so bad. I hate what the government has done to my city.

There is so much truth to the saying "The People Get The Government They Deserve". The government of SF only exists in it's current state because the majority of voters in SF chose them.

I have an issue with that sentiment because people do not directly vote for policies. They indirectly vote for a representative to enact policies, and the viable ones are backed by mass party apparatuses. Here, the Party's interests overrides the People's and dominate the political discussion. The Party is backed by a large network of corporate lobbyists. It's really that corporate personhood gets the government they deserve.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

Many years ago my dad worked for a british company. Some of his coworkers were traveling to DC for business and staying in a very nice hotel. They asked my dad if they should buy a gun to be safe in DC. He was floored. No. Jesus Christ. Violence exists. You can compare risk between places and activities. But decisions should be based on data, not headlines and hunches.

Obviously buying a gun wasn't the solution, but at least "many years ago" DC was pretty bad. I was at a company event and the wife of one of our dinner guests was cut and robbed right outside of a downtown business hotel. And absolutely no one thought this was a freak or particularly out-of-the-ordinary event.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

1. Due to the temperate weather, California has largely become the dumping ground for America's chronic homeless. This is rooted in longstanding housing policies causing a shortfall of affordable housing nationwide. 2. On top of that, California has additional broken tax policies and other policies that deepen the shortage of affordable housing. 3. Big cities are where the services are, such as soup kitchens. If you…

> Being LGBTQ puts one at high risk of being homeless due to homophobia.

The statistics might bear out that being LGBTQ puts one at high risk of being homeless, but homelessness being due to homophobia is an unclear and unproven assertion.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

I never understand why people feel like they can make such generalizing statements as "One of the European capitals". Europe is not a monolith. Different areas also have different problems. It's like the whole talk about "walkable cities" or healthcare. Everything is frame from a US perspective and simplified to an absurd level so that no contextual criticism is possible without descending into weird political tribal…

Europe is part of the Asian continent. I think the idea that it’s a continent is eurocentrism. Perhaps you could say it’s a subcontinent of Asia, like India.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

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Every year there's some new tax on the ballot to fix these problems. Every year they get worse. We pay more money here in SF, and the problems get worse.

Genuinely asking: How do you solve societal issues? Because we know for sure how to solve quality of life issues: See NYC in the 80s - More police enforcement and state prosecution.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I think the chances of getting killed in a random stabbing is low in SF… and this is from someone that really hates going into any city.

However, the crime in general… that’s not something one can claim is “cherry picked.” I know of several companies that have stopped letting employees visit SF because it is too expensive to insure.

Still though, it’s been said how dangerous SF is becoming in general… and now such a high profile hacker is dead from a random stabbing. Certainly awful optics.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Could someone please enlighten me on why we don't treat governing like we do software solutions?

When I'm given a task to complete, my first instinct is to find where other developers have done what I'm asked to do and then utilize their wisdom into my own solution which will likely look very similar to theirs.

Why do we see such drastically different approaches to solving issues in society and government?

Want better education? Step 1: Find a state/city that has great education and study what they did to achieve it

Want less crime? Step 1: Mimic a state/city that has successfully reduced crime

Seems so simple to me but yet I never hear politicians/people saying things like "Boston has successfully raised their level of education by doing XYZ so we're going to follow those steps here with minor tweaks to best suite our area"

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

> I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Jesus, the bubble the typical HN SV commenter must live in. I'm sure it's frustrating to see crime rates increase, but "incredibly dangerous?" SF still has far less crime per capita than many of its peer cities. Where are all the displaced SV millionaires moving with dramatically lower crime rates…

From https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des...:

"With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18. Within California, more than 98% of the communities have a lower crime rate than San Francisco."

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