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Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

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Re: Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

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Post by kop316 »

hedora wrote: post #357
Spooky23 wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite fail with Ubuntu is every version changes how DNS configuration works.

This was my last straw. I installed some 6 month old LTS release, and it had to go through a 2-5 second timeout step on the initial lookup of each new dns name. Then, it would populate a local cache, and work well until the TTL expired or whatever. Anyway, if you are looking for a noob distro, I recommend manjaro. (The AUR packages are extremely unstable, but other than that, it’s pretty competitive with what Ubuntu…

Please do not use Manjaro. They are known to ship half baked WIP patches that cause massive breakages in their distro. Here is one of their latest instances: https://fosstodon.org/@alyssa@treehouse.systems/110049699665...

I personally have had them ship out WIP patches not meant for production, which has wasted a lot of my (volunteer) time chasing down phantom bugs in software I maintain. This has personally happened to me on at least four different occasions. A lot of other FOSS maintainers I know have similar stories.

More info: https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/

Re: Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

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Post by _0ffh »

wilonth wrote: post #161

Wow they're still pushing snaps, the project with some the worst engineering I've ever seen. - Extremely slow at doing anything, even the most basic commands. - Ridiculous auto-update mechanism (you can't even disable it wtf). - Random, nonsense limitations (why can't I open dot files and dot directories???). So terrible that for most apps that I installed with snaps I end up installing the deb version later on. What…

Yup, I ditched Ubuntu for good when they started with this snap nonsense.

Re: Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

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Post by thangalin »

wilonth wrote: post #161

Wow they're still pushing snaps, the project with some the worst engineering I've ever seen. - Extremely slow at doing anything, even the most basic commands. - Ridiculous auto-update mechanism (you can't even disable it wtf). - Random, nonsense limitations (why can't I open dot files and dot directories???). So terrible that for most apps that I installed with snaps I end up installing the deb version later on. What…

And:

- Violates XDG Base Directory Specification

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1575053

Re: Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

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Post by sliken »

wilonth wrote: post #161

Wow they're still pushing snaps, the project with some the worst engineering I've ever seen. - Extremely slow at doing anything, even the most basic commands. - Ridiculous auto-update mechanism (you can't even disable it wtf). - Random, nonsense limitations (why can't I open dot files and dot directories???). So terrible that for most apps that I installed with snaps I end up installing the deb version later on. What…

I hate snaps, doubly so when they appeared on a LTS release and some /dev/random sillyness broke simple things like booting.

However this seems pretty silly when what actually changed is the default OS installs will not have flatpak installed. Easily fixed with "apt install flatpak". It's just a default they are changing, not purging flatpaks or preventing them from working well.

Re: Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

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Post by thomasvm »

ranger207 wrote: post #409
thomasvm wrote: post #247

So, for a developer, what's currently the best hassle-free desktop Linux Distribution?

I personally would recommend Fedora. It's not rolling release like Arch so packages might be a bit behind, but with Red Hat using Fedora as their staging distro it's usually not very far behind and occasionally even ahead. And you don't have to worry about updates breaking everything. It's also one of the big distros so it's well supported

Been a long time that I used a rpm based distro. Ubuntu got me pretty hooked on apt-get. I guess I should let go of my preference based on nothing :)

Re: Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

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Post by rascul »

dezgeg wrote: post #286
sergiosgc wrote: post #224

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sergio@sergio-laptop:~ > sudo apt-get install wine Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: fonts-liberation fonts-wine libcapi20-3 libodbc2 libosmesa6 libwine libz-mingw-w64 wine64 Suggested packages: odbc-postgresql tdsodbc ttf-mscorefonts-installer q4wine winbind winetricks playonlinux wine-binfmt dosbox ex…

But do you then get Wine that is capable of running 32-bit Windows binaries? Or can Wine do it nowadays without?

There's work to do that since 8.0. Current version is 8.4 but I haven't been following, don't know the status. There's a HN thread about the 8.0 release with 201 comments.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34505239

Re: Ubuntu stops shipping Flatpak by default

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Post by addingnumbers »

GlumWoodpecker wrote: post #419
webkike wrote: post #400

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I haven't had trouble with drivers using Fedora in years. RPM fusion handles Nvidia drivers just fine. It's a far cleaner and "noob friendly" distro in my opinion, so long as you're able to google "how to install nvidia drivers fedora"

This is mostly just a Debian problem, due to their "no non-free software" philosophy, which extends to device drivers. I have never in my days booted a Debian install that worked with wifi out of the box, and I suspect I never will, due to that philosophy.. For that reason, I've stopped trying and I default to Ubuntu (-based) distros instead. All it takes to get rid of snaps forever is `sudo apt purge snapd`.

> All it takes to get rid of snaps forever is `sudo apt purge snapd`.

That's not enough. Some package could eventually drag it back in.

    $ apt show firefox
    Package: firefox
    ...
    Pre-Depends: debconf, snapd
If you really want to keep it off your system for good, you need something like this:

    $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/no-snapd
    Package: snapd
    Pin: release a=*
    Pin-Priority: -1
    $
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