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Post by squintychino »

ultrarunner wrote: post #117
imtyler wrote: post #26

My nextdoor neighbor sold their house last year and now it's an Airbnb. Despite the fact that I live in a house in a normal residential neighborhood, I'm now forced to live next to a hotel. And I have no say in the matter. Super frustrating. I've read people talking about how Airbnb screwed the host or the guest. But few people talk about how it screws the neighbors.

My next door neighbor also rents out her house. She has 5 others she does the same in. These are long term rentals, which means when the tenant is bad it's bad for me long term. We got new neighbors last year, and while they struggle socially they're respectful and it's a huge quality of life improvement. Our neighbors on the other side, unfortunately, own their home. This means I'm forced to live next to (depending…

This isn't the same thing as short term rentals thru AirBnB. Long term tenants are part of the rental market, not the hospitality market.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by seattle_spring »

tekknik wrote: post #410
cycrutchfield wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet my comment gets downvoted to oblivion because it questions the conclusion that everybody has jumped to

http://insideairbnb.com/reports/platform-failures-how-short-... This is an interesting read about the market effects Airbnb has caused. They’re definitely moving prices and removing units from the market.

“Inside Airbnb” doesn’t sound impartial or unbiased at all.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by thebiss »

wdb wrote: post #375
hackernewds wrote: post #294

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I think you're guilty of what you're accusing the responder with. The exorbitance of a $200+ cleaning fee is a well-known criticism of Airbnb. And no, not until recently could you see the actual total prior to sunken cost of Reviewing your booking. That too, Airbnb finally implemented once the Biden administration compelled them by law - that is, not before making much fanfare about it with the pretense of them "doin…

$200 cleaning fee? How big are the houses you stay in?

When I used a cleaning service 10 years ago, it was $275 for 2 maids to clean 1100sqft house. 1 bath, 1 bedroom, vac+mop everywhere, kitchen dishes. They were done in ~3 hours. NYC area.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by ultrarunner »

rootusrootus wrote: post #157
ultrarunner wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My next door neighbor also rents out her house. She has 5 others she does the same in. These are long term rentals, which means when the tenant is bad it's bad for me long term. We got new neighbors last year, and while they struggle socially they're respectful and it's a huge quality of life improvement. Our neighbors on the other side, unfortunately, own their home. This means I'm forced to live next to (depending…

Every time someone online complains loudly about an HOA, here is why people still choose to live in neighborhoods with HOAs.

Specifically chose this neighborhood because there is no HOA. The goat/sheep/whatever was hilarious and was gone within a week. The point is that just because I don't live by an AirBnB (that I know of) doesn't mean I'm guaranteed to have no noise from neighbors. The renters before honestly did suck a lot, but if they wouldn't turn down their bass, and the cops couldn't be bothered to do anything about it, I doubt an HOA would have helped. I'd rather invest in quiet windows than live out the many many horror stories of my friends who live in HOAs.

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Post by miguelazo »

zbrozek wrote: post #454
miguelazo wrote: post #447

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There are plenty of empty luxury condos in every major city. They mostly serve as bank accounts for foreign investors. There's plenty of construction, just the wrong type.

Maybe so, but can you show any data that it's a significant or meaningful problem and not a visible scapegoat? The data I found (above) makes clear that deleting the short-term rental market would not even dent the housing shortage problem in the United States. I could believe (and maybe someone in this thread has data!) that in some extremely over-constrained markets that units are disproportionately used for short-…

It's amazing how lazy the supply siders are on this argument. Of course there's no good data-- real estate interests fight to prevent that data from even being collected. You only have to drive around major cities at dusk and see how many units have no lights on for weeks on end to recognize the magnitude of the problem. There may be data from Vancouver BC and other places that have passed vacancy taxes to address the issue. Further, the amount of construction resources that go into building luxury condos and other useless units are resources that CANNOT be used to build good housing. There is a limited supply of labor and supplies for that.

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Post by PaulHoule »

imtyler wrote: post #26

My nextdoor neighbor sold their house last year and now it's an Airbnb. Despite the fact that I live in a house in a normal residential neighborhood, I'm now forced to live next to a hotel. And I have no say in the matter. Super frustrating. I've read people talking about how Airbnb screwed the host or the guest. But few people talk about how it screws the neighbors.

One thing I haven't liked about AirBNB is being told that I have to keep my status as a guest a secret from the neighbors.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by kingboss »

elmerfud wrote: post #8

Airbnb removed my positive review and accused me of being in cahoots with the host to leave positive feedback. They said they have found an existing relationship between me and the host. Mind you have no social media accounts, this was my first stay at an Airbnb, I'm from USA and this was in Medellin Colombia, I usually stay at Marriott hotels and I only went with Airbnb because the girl I traveled with suggested usi…

shhhh... you are on pg's forum. 'Member when he was shilling for this new billion dollar unicorn that was airbnb and how it would revolutionize the hotel industry? Pepperidge Farm remembers....

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by zbrozek »

tekknik wrote: post #457
zbrozek wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe so, but can you show any data that it's a significant or meaningful problem and not a visible scapegoat? The data I found (above) makes clear that deleting the short-term rental market would not even dent the housing shortage problem in the United States. I could believe (and maybe someone in this thread has data!) that in some extremely over-constrained markets that units are disproportionately used for short-…

Adding more houses to the market certainly will decrease pricing pressure. Nobody said banning Airbnb was suddenly going to make housing affordable but decrease prices. And my question remains, which is more valuable to society, short term rentals or homes?

It's not a zero-sum game. You can have both, but you need to build enough to have it. Regulating the use of a thing is a mark of market failure. How would you feel if the government told you that you could only use a pencil for writing because that has more social value than its use in making a model log cabin?

You're also failing to process my point: that banning short-term rentals is an ineffective lever, not that it won't have an epsilon of impact. Yes, you will increase supply by a tiny amount relative to the shortage. It will have near-zero pricing impact because the magnitude pales against the problem.

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Post by miguelazo »

zbrozek wrote: post #468
tekknik wrote: post #457

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding more houses to the market certainly will decrease pricing pressure. Nobody said banning Airbnb was suddenly going to make housing affordable but decrease prices. And my question remains, which is more valuable to society, short term rentals or homes?

It's not a zero-sum game. You can have both, but you need to build enough to have it. Regulating the use of a thing is a mark of market failure. How would you feel if the government told you that you could only use a pencil for writing because that has more social value than its use in making a model log cabin? You're also failing to process my point: that banning short-term rentals is an ineffective lever, not that…

No, we have been ignoring your point because it’s one of those Econ 101 world views based on assumptions that have no basis in the real world and actual human behavior. You can’t look at the number of Airbnb rentals and conclude it’s not having a significant impact on the market simply based on the raw number of units. What we know from all systems theory is that a small portion of things has the majority of the effect. In this case, short term rentals are very likely setting the upper bounds of the pricing range.

https://time.com/6223185/airbnbs-empty-short-term-rentals/

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Post by cycrutchfield »

tekknik wrote: post #411
cycrutchfield wrote: post #183

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So housing is cheap now, right? Right?

Housing prices are more complex than that, but it’s inarguable that more houses on the market means cheaper prices. Out of curiosity, do you own properties specifically to rent on short term rental sites?

No, I own a property that I exclusively rent long-term. So I don’t have an interest in short term rentals, except as a traveler that likes to use them.
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