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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by Xylakant »

cddotdotslash wrote: post #186
hobbitstan wrote: post #74

Interesting that Gettr, Parler and Gab aren't included in the ban list. The linktr.ee ban isn't a great idea, many artists use it to promote themselves on various non-SM platforms.

TikTok is also suspiciously missing.

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d say it’s because Tesla wants to be present in the Chinese market and angering Chinese state-associated media may be an issue here. But the more benign answer is that twitter has no video hosting and this must allow video links to YouTube, TikTok and other video hosting sites.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by charcircuit »

pjc50 wrote: post #283
photochemsyn wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the actual internal business model is motivated more by the desire to capture the Tik-Tok audience than the Parler audience - it's much larger. However, it is true that from a purely business viewpoint, you'd want a platform that was equally popular with left-Democrats, right-Republicans, and unaffiliated-independents.

It has been noted that Tiktok is not on the ban list, possibly because of Elon's personal decision to reinstate "libsoftiktok", a prominent harrasment account. > equally popular with left-Democrats, right-Republicans, and unaffiliated-independents A large number of forces are making this increasingly impossible.

He didn't ban YouTube or Twitch either. TikTok isn't banned because it's not twitter like.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by ancapsfascists »

modeless wrote: post #448
Chinjut wrote: post #418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no need to defend Elon here. Clearly what will happen is highly capricious enforcement based on who he personally likes and dislikes.

Don't ascribe motivations to me without evidence. This is not a defense of Elon Musk. I think this policy is stupid. But our criticisms of it should be correct. Otherwise we're no better than our opponents.

There is tons and tons of evidence that Musk is moderating capriciously at this point.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by cldellow »

notduncansmith wrote: post #311
amrocha wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The writing has been on the wall for years. He swatted a journalist for being critical of Tesla. At this point anyone that still supports him is willingly looking away. Edit: he swatted a whistleblower, not a journalist

Do you have a source for this? Elon’s recent treatment of journalists is mostly what comes back when I try to search for it.

I think not a journalist, but a journalist's source [1].

I think the facts are something like:

- Martin Tripp, a Tesla employee working at the Gigafactory, leaked to a journalist that Tesla was wasting a large amount of raw material when making batteries

- Tesla identified that the leak came from Tripp and fired him

- Musk told the local sheriff and The Guardian that they had been tipped off that Tripp intended to come in and shoot up the factory

- Tripp disputes that he wanted to shoot up the factory

- Tripp was visited by police

- There was a civil lawsuit from each side, Tripp ended up having to pay $400K for leaking his employer's corporate trade secrets

[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jun/21/tesla-whi...

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by DoreenMichele »

grepLeigh wrote: post #257

Influencers cross-promote their social channels all the time, since each social media network has a different audience. An influencer might post how-to videos on TikTok, re-post to YouTube shorts, then re-purpose the same content as a micro-blog threads on Twitter. There's even a cottage industry of link tree / bio landing pages that consolidate all of your social handles, featured posts, etc into one page. Are those…

I cross-post from Reddit fairly often. Reddit isn't yet on the bad list, but one has to wonder how long that will last and will this built-in Reddit functionality now be a bannable offense on Twitter?

I don't want to deal with the stress of trying to figure it out. I'm not sure I want to stay on Twitter at this point.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by MonkeyMalarky »

mmxmb wrote: post #316
grepLeigh wrote: post #257

Influencers cross-promote their social channels all the time, since each social media network has a different audience. An influencer might post how-to videos on TikTok, re-post to YouTube shorts, then re-purpose the same content as a micro-blog threads on Twitter. There's even a cottage industry of link tree / bio landing pages that consolidate all of your social handles, featured posts, etc into one page. Are those…

> There's even a cottage industry of link tree / bio landing pages that consolidate all of your social handles, featured posts, etc into one page. Are those bio sites going to end up banned on Twitter too? These are already prohibited by the linked policy: “Prohibited platforms: * Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Post and Nostr * 3rd-party social media link aggregators such as linktr.ee, lnk.bio”

The problem is someone will get clever and use pastbin, then pastebin links are banned, then someone uses a Google Docs link and then those are banned. But at what price? Every overly broad ban just chills speech further and stymies engagement.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by the_only_law »

93po wrote: post #262
KaiserPro wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

whats the correct response? obsequiousness? doff my hat to the billionaire?

reasonable and rational discussion: "this is a dumb business decision" "this is seemingly hypocritical based on his previous stated intentions" "what might the motivation be here?" "is this legal?" these are some of the top responses that loaded for me: "Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." "Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype. " "…

> this is a dumb business decision

Yeah sure, an empty statement calling something dumb with no other information is “reasonable and rational”.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by ad404b8a372f2b9 »

dang wrote: post #381
ad404b8a372f2b9 wrote: post #249

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With every new thread about Twitter I lose more respect for this community. It is comment after comment of sneer, puerile insults, and caricaturally one-sided remarks.

I agree that these threads have been appallingly bad* but the solution isn't to post more bad comments, it's to find things that do gratify your curiosity and comment on those. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33992824 , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34020263

I feel for you having to moderate all of this, no joke, dang in there.
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