461–470 of 479 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you leave, like you said.
"Pay me or I leave" is bargaining. "I leave" is not bargaining.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
well, this has upsides and downsides. proof of doing is in large part responsible for how grueling and grinding tech interviews are. you don't hire nurses by asking them to demonstrate operating on a cat. and to some degree the grueling and grinding is there because the degree doesn't indicate anything at all, and desirable companies ending up having to process a lot of underqualified applicants.
All upsides for real people and all downsides for multi-billion-dollar companies, it would seem. There is never going to be a university degree program that precisely matches what a company needs. So why bother?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Italy can't control what others pay, but using your example does Italy pay all of their players the same, or do they generally pay more money to their better players?
But it can control wages, and seems they are above market rate? Which of course means that wages aren't adjusted by merit.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Pay me or I leave" is bargaining. "I leave" is not bargaining.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, we are directly talking about a scenario where a worker says "pay me more or I leave" and the company says "Our union doesn't want nonmembers to be paid more" or "We can't pay you more because of the union" and you're telling me "then leaving" is not bargaining.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, we are directly talking about a scenario where a worker says "pay me more or I leave" and the company says "Our union doesn't want nonmembers to be paid more" or "We can't pay you more because of the union" and you're telling me "then leaving" is not bargaining.
I go to a store and I tell them I want to buy item X, but the price is too high. If they don't want to lower the price, I'll go somewhere else. They say they can't change the posted price. I leave the store. Do you call that bargaining? If you do, you have a very peculiar definition of the word.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
But it can control wages, and seems they are above market rate? Which of course means that wages aren't adjusted by merit.
This is 100% incorrect. They do not pay all of their players the same. The better players make more money.
Shouldn't the better players qualify for tournaments then? Are you being obtuse on purpose?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I go to a store and I tell them I want to buy item X, but the price is too high. If they don't want to lower the price, I'll go somewhere else. They say they can't change the posted price. I leave the store. Do you call that bargaining? If you do, you have a very peculiar definition of the word.
Yes, because it is bargaining. You offered an agreement: You stay and work, they pay more. The alternative is leave. They chose for you to leave.
If you are in a union shop, you can't get paid more than what's on the grid. If you want more, you need to resign and get somewhere else. But don't pretend you have a choice to do "individual bargaining".
Unions eliminate the individual bargaining power of people.
Except, of course, if we choose to use your definition, and call resigning and moving to another job "bargaining".
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, because it is bargaining. You offered an agreement: You stay and work, they pay more. The alternative is leave. They chose for you to leave.
It is not bargaining if you can't possibly get what you want. If you are in a union shop, you can't get paid more than what's on the grid. If you want more, you need to resign and get somewhere else. But don't pretend you have a choice to do "individual bargaining". Unions eliminate the individual bargaining power of people. Except, of course, if we choose to use your definition, and call resigning and moving to anot…
You not liking their choice doesn't mean there was no choice.
Just join the union, you'll get paid more anyways.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not bargaining if you can't possibly get what you want. If you are in a union shop, you can't get paid more than what's on the grid. If you want more, you need to resign and get somewhere else. But don't pretend you have a choice to do "individual bargaining". Unions eliminate the individual bargaining power of people. Except, of course, if we choose to use your definition, and call resigning and moving to anot…
They chose the union rules over giving you individually more money. There was a choice. You not liking their choice doesn't mean there was no choice. Just join the union, you'll get paid more anyways.
You don't.
If you were to come to my company and try to convince me to start a union, I'd say "thanks, but no thanks".
Just now, you are trying to convince me that I'd be retaining my individual bargaining power, if I accept to use a different definition.
Well, I was born in a Communist country, where they were fond of changing definitions. We were free to vote for whomever we wanted, as long as it was someone on the list presented to us. We had no say in who was on that list. Of course, we were free to not vote at all, right? Boys had to do mandatory military service. You know how they were called when they were conscripted? "Volunteers". That was the official name.
So, yes, I'm used to the tactic of changing definitions. But if you are serious about presenting an argument, you should no use this tactic.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rent seeking is collecting money while adding no economic value. Like landlords.
Unions don't add economic value, hence why employers don't like them. The way they secure higher pay is by going on strike, not by offering more production or value.