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Post by kcplate »

tsimionescu wrote: post #460
kcplate wrote: post #437

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> So, if you see a tweet from the blue checkmark @DonaldTrump saying "I am running for president", with the new system, you have no idea if the former president has publicly announced he is running again, or if some rando who had 8 dollars to spare wants to make it seem so. Good! I can’t think of a better way to make Twitter better for the world than to eliminate the elitism.

What's elitist about confirming the identity of who is speaking?

Nothing, unless you are selectively only confirming specific people.

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Post by LEDThereBeLight »

Emigre_ wrote: post #174
LEDThereBeLight wrote: post #150

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Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I’m pointing out the fallacy of the argument as a devils advocate.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by LEDThereBeLight »

robin_reala wrote: post #178
LEDThereBeLight wrote: post #169

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The UX can be better and the accessibility worse.

Not really: the implication there is that people who need additional accessibility work are not users. The UX of a system is the sum totality of the experience of all users of the system, regardless of their needs.

If UX is the sum totality of the experience of all users of the system, it can be significantly better for most users but worse for a small number. I’ve never used the app so I have no idea, I’m just saying UX is more than accessibility, so you can have a great UX for most people while being useless for others.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by briantakita »

tchaffee wrote: post #458
origin_path wrote: post #457

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Nope, the videos are real and the things the employees say on them, equally so. Not distorted or taken out of context - on video, talking about their work in the clearest possible terms. It's a far higher calibre of evidence than a typical newspaper investigation, in which you'd get at best only quotes written down without even video evidence to back it up. But if you'd rather be in denial about the nature of Twitter…

The claim: > literal hours of continuous footage You gave links to highly edited videos. That is a fail. > If you would rather be in denial about the nature of Twitter I almost never use Twitter so I don't care. If you're naive enough to believe highly edited video from a source with a strong history of deceptively editing videos, [1], that's certainly your choice. But don't be so shocked that others are not as gulli…

> You gave links to highly edited videos. That is a fail.

Then why did the employees say what they said? In most conversations, you wouldn't have vitriol toward a certain set of political beliefs, yet the Twitter employees in the videos do express vitriol...whether the video is edited for the mass audience (like most news interviews/exposes are) or not.

Either way, our opinions here are moot. Twitter is a private company & it can do whatever it wants. If you don't like that, build your own social network & run it the way that you want to run it. You can even recruit ex-Twitter employees if they agree with your direction...

I for one, prefer the direction of the new Twitter & perhaps even more profound, more attention is given to alternatives that are open source. Building alternatives will enhance the space & create more innovation!

I agree with the sentiment of these Elon Musk quotes & it would be great for human progress if other social media networks also adopt these stances:

Twitter needs to become by far the most accurate source of information about the world. That’s our mission.

| Elon Musk

“I think wishful thinking is innate in the human brain. You want things to be the way you wish them to be, and so you tend to filter the information that you shouldn't filter.”

| Elon Musk

“The internet has been the biggest equalizer in history in terms of access to information and knowledge.”

| Elon Musk

“The extreme antibody reaction from those who fear free speech says it all.”

| @elonmusk

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by narrator »

Marazan wrote: post #20
HanTrio3 wrote: post #7

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Twitter is dead dude. It is Friendster. It is MySpace. You just don't realise it yet. (Disclaimer I have a Twitter account that I use to post stuff)

Friendster and Myspace failed because of scalability problems and lack of features compared to the alternatives. Mastodon has both of those.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by amatecha »

amatecha wrote: post #102
FortiDude wrote: post #9

It doesn't seem sensible to invest yourself so much into Mastodon without having thorougly explored it. I too was fascinated with the fediverse, until I used it for more than a month and realized the people posting there were just as toxic and annoying as Twitters, not to mention the plenty of instances where the petty owners have made everything even worse

I mean, what instance did you register on? Because I've been using it for a couple years and uhh, the toxicity is nearly non-existent for me. I see some stupid crap once in a while in a response to some highly-followed user, but then I just mute the person's entire instance (if I find that similarly-toxic crap is a common sort of output from there). Simultaneously, I've had more meaningful communication on Mastodon i…

Since I made the above post (two days ago) I now have 243 followers. All people who I'm in contact with on other platforms - I'm not even sure how they found me, but either way. The momentum is honestly accelerating. Sorry, 244 followers - just got another follow request.

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Post by tchaffee »

briantakita wrote: post #464
tchaffee wrote: post #458

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The claim: > literal hours of continuous footage You gave links to highly edited videos. That is a fail. > If you would rather be in denial about the nature of Twitter I almost never use Twitter so I don't care. If you're naive enough to believe highly edited video from a source with a strong history of deceptively editing videos, [1], that's certainly your choice. But don't be so shocked that others are not as gulli…

> You gave links to highly edited videos. That is a fail. Then why did the employees say what they said? In most conversations, you wouldn't have vitriol toward a certain set of political beliefs, yet the Twitter employees in the videos do express vitriol...whether the video is edited for the mass audience (like most news interviews/exposes are) or not. Either way, our opinions here are moot. Twitter is a private com…

That's a really long way of saying you don't have the "literal hours of continuous footage" that was claimed.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by briantakita »

tchaffee wrote: post #467
briantakita wrote: post #464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You gave links to highly edited videos. That is a fail. Then why did the employees say what they said? In most conversations, you wouldn't have vitriol toward a certain set of political beliefs, yet the Twitter employees in the videos do express vitriol...whether the video is edited for the mass audience (like most news interviews/exposes are) or not. Either way, our opinions here are moot. Twitter is a private com…

That's a really long way of saying you don't have the "literal hours of continuous footage" that was claimed.

There are no links to the raw footage for the Twitter interviews. I called them & asked them to provide all raw footage as they provide raw footage for some of their episodes & it would be a significant distinguishing feature for a news organization to provide raw footage for all episodes. Note that you are holding them to a higher standard than other news outlets who rarely provide the raw interview footage & mostly edit the interviews...but I do agree that all raw footage for all interviews should be provided for transparency & to provide more context.

Nonetheless, the Twitter employees still said what they said & expressed their intent to censor political opponents. You can point out that there is no raw footage for Project Veritas, even though all news organizations rarely provide raw footage & they all editorialize & they all edit, but it still does not change the fact of what was said...You might not like their editorialization or their editing, but what was said is still on video. You can call it "deceptive practices", but all news organizations engage in the same "deceptive practices".

I hope they change their policy after my call with them because they have an opportunity be a leading example of even more transparent journalism.

At the end of the day...Elon still owns Twitter, Twitter is having a record inflow of activity & active users, Elon fired the old staff, & many people are happy about it...you can't change that either. You can complain, but it still happened.

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by Tepix »

ghostDancer wrote: post #127
Tepix wrote: post #97

Is there a stable mature lightweight mastodon/PubSub server (ideally with sqlite storage) that's easy to maintain to serve a handful of users?

Can't give opinion as I don't use it but you can take a look at https://masto.host/

I meant software, not service

Re: It looks like I’m moving to Mastodon

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Post by tchaffee »

briantakita wrote: post #468
tchaffee wrote: post #467

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a really long way of saying you don't have the "literal hours of continuous footage" that was claimed.

There are no links to the raw footage for the Twitter interviews. I called them & asked them to provide all raw footage as they provide raw footage for some of their episodes & it would be a significant distinguishing feature for a news organization to provide raw footage for all episodes. Note that you are holding them to a higher standard than other news outlets who rarely provide the raw interview footage & mostly…

Like I said from the very beginning, you can only provide links that are highly edited and leave out the context. At the end of the day only the naive and gullible will trust those videos. Your choice of course.
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