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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by robryan »

enumjorge wrote: post #409
bcrosby95 wrote: post #174

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"Elon, what made you decide on $8?" "I was going to charge $20, but then Stephen King told me it was too much."

You joke, but after reading some texts from Musk and his social circle [1], I find it plausible that that is how some of these business decisions get made. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/09/elon-...

This is probably fine though, it is the Elon way of doing business. Make fast decisions and try and whole heap of things. He then gets criticised for not delivering on the majority of them but still comes out ahead of orgs that take 6 months to make the decision in the first place.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by freejazz »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #356
RosanaAnaDana wrote: post #338

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> If you’re a journalist, being on Twitter is basically part of your job so maybe you should have to pay a bit more just like the customer of some business software I think this completely misunderstands why social media products like Twitter are successful. Those journalists (or gamers, or comedians, or porn stars) that you're arguing should be considering $9 a month as cost of business, they are the content creator…

Think you're over-estimating their value, if they were posting their thoughts elsewhere without the blue check next to their name no one would be engaging with it, it's honestly such bad content.

Oh, you mean like the articles in the newspapers that they regularly publish? What exactly do you think a journalist does, just post on Twitter?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by renewiltord »

pkaye wrote: post #387
UncleMeat wrote: post #159

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I don't quite think it is luck - but a weird second thing. Musk has a reality distortion field. I think he is a bloviating jerk but I know a lot of really really smart and dedicated engineers in software and in more traditional fields like mech-e and aerospace who would rather work for Musk than any other person and are willing to take pay cuts to work for him. This means he really can surround himself with very skil…

So why is he able to get smart people around him? Its not like he pays them a lot or offer a good work/life balance in their job.

Elon offers people a chance to operate at a true 100% on a thing that matters. Next to that, work-life balance pales. And comp? Comp follows company glory. Tesla engineers are rich, man.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by freejazz »

dan-robertson wrote: post #373
RosanaAnaDana wrote: post #338

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> If you’re a journalist, being on Twitter is basically part of your job so maybe you should have to pay a bit more just like the customer of some business software I think this completely misunderstands why social media products like Twitter are successful. Those journalists (or gamers, or comedians, or porn stars) that you're arguing should be considering $9 a month as cost of business, they are the content creator…

If you’re a journalist (or your other suggestions) then you’re basically using Twitter as free advertising to (a) your followers and (b) people who read your tweets which have been retweeted. Having people coming towards the way you actually make money is probably worth a lot more than $8 per month to you, even considering that journalists aren’t so well paid (the idea of blue checks getting paywall bypass could be v…

Conventional journalists don't get paid more based upon the number of views their articles get

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by adrr »

empressplay wrote: post #401
slg wrote: post #103

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>making verification only about ID and being a real person is a broadly good change Where does he say there will be any verification around ID? Twitter needs to make sure that I can't just name my account @WhiteHouseCommunications and pay $8 to get a blue checkmark. The whole point of the blue checkmark was to personally review those accounts to make sure they are who they say they are. Is Twitter still going to put…

They don't need to, your 'full' name is just locked to whatever's on your payment method. Problem solved.

That’s cool. I can set the bill name and address of my visa gift cards for online purchases. Sure hope they do this for $8/m.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by drstewart »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #439
enumjorge wrote: post #395

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To your point here's a tweet from Stephen King that was making the rounds where he protests the idea that he should be paying Twitter instead of the reverse: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587312517679878144

And I agree with Stephen King. YouTube rewards content creators and provides a strong platform for creators to market themselves. Twitter provides a platform for brain farts and now they want to charge for a blue checkmark. I guess Musk believes if people are stupid enough to believe in his lies before that they'll be stupid enough to pay for a blue checkmark. Wait until you see how they begin marketing the subscript…

How much profit does YouTube make?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by robryan »

pkaye wrote: post #387
UncleMeat wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't quite think it is luck - but a weird second thing. Musk has a reality distortion field. I think he is a bloviating jerk but I know a lot of really really smart and dedicated engineers in software and in more traditional fields like mech-e and aerospace who would rather work for Musk than any other person and are willing to take pay cuts to work for him. This means he really can surround himself with very skil…

So why is he able to get smart people around him? Its not like he pays them a lot or offer a good work/life balance in their job.

Sells them on the mission. Things like a colony on Mars and full self driving are pretty compelling goals for some people.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by pyfork »

xtracto wrote: post #335
paxys wrote: post #322

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That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

I always felt Twitter as "old man yells at cloud" kind of communication. I've never seen proper "content" created (like pinterest, tik tok, etc). Most of the "content" I see are the asinine multi-post threads and text-pictures notices from angry people/companies.

I actually get a lot of unique ML information and news from Twitter.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by reverius42 »

BurningFrog wrote: post #124
dieortin wrote: post #70

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I really don’t want to live in a world in which so much depends on impulsive individuals. Your example sounds like a nightmare. That’s no way to make decisions.

Sure, but impulses among individuals like Putin, Biden and Xi Jinping have much bigger impact.

And that's why it's so important for world leaders to not act (or appear to act) impulsively! You might say the same is true for business leaders.
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