I want to be happy for everyone who made Figma happen and their success but at the same time it makes me sad to see Adobe buying it. I am hoping Adobe won't mess up with Figma in future.
Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
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Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#462Good, Figma wasn't a good Photoshop alternative anyway.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#463RIP Figma, I've been trying to avoid Adobe products since they charge the earth for their products and free open source options are solid alternatives. I'm expecting Adobe to eventually price gouge us to the point where we are forced to find a Figma alternative.
Post C6, I was 100% out and only FOSS as well. Dedicating time to those tools have proven more than acceptable and on occasion I got to file a bug too. Of them, darktable and Hugin have been my favorites.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#464Show HN 10 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4744877
CEO of Figma also commented in the past on HN that they were able to start Figma with support of the Thiel Fellowship:
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#465This acquisition is anticompetitive and should be blocked by government.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#466Congrats Dylan. I remember riding caltrain with you from south bay to SF, watching you sit on the floor of the train coding a "photoshop alternative" thinking your idea was crazy!
That's a neat throwback. Great to see his dedication pay off in the world.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#467Adobe has been unable to find technological innovation organically (To their credit, their stock price soared through financial engineering). Adobe has instead augmented its capabilities through acquisitions. Today's acquisition of Figma is no different. And maybe that is fine. Adobe is not alone. Many big companies can only expand their capabilities through acquisitions. Those big companies are doing fine. Specific…
> Adobe has been unable to find technological innovation organically… In-house innovation is not the problem¹. What Adobe hasn't been able to replicate with XD or Illustrator is Figma's success with network effects related to collaborative editing and review. https://research.adobe.com/research/
In house innovation is certainly a problem on the product side. What new Adobe products have come out in the last decade? Every new product or service is from an acquisition.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#468Well that’s the end of Figma then. It was fantastic while it lasted.
Although it’s still great software I’m stopping usage today because a) I refuse to support adobe and b) I’m confident the software will progressively get much worse, so any investment today is a waste of time I should spend finding and learning something else. Is there a blender of tools like this?
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Ok it is the multiple user editing that people liked so much about figma. Ok that makes sense. Ignore me.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#469Earlier quoted context omitted.
They literally did the same thing with dreamweaver as well. And now dreamweaver is a fast growing business in the form of Webflow. It’s the same story over and over again. Adobe acquires and then stifles innovation. 10 years later we realize what we were missing out on when a challenger eventually gets big enough—-until Adobe kills that company too. I’d bet a nice chunk of money that Webflow is next.
I don't think so. Webflow is all marketing and PR IMO. The issue with Webflow is that GUI-based web design that exports static HTML files doesn't fit with how most large websites are coded and deployed. It would be one thing if Webflow CMS and Ecommerce was gaining market share vs Squarespace and Wix, but I don't know if that's really happening. When I go on Twitter, I mostly see PR-type posts about Webflow. Lots of…
Maybe it depends on country but Webflow has massive adoption around here. Every agency is becoming webflow agency because they can teach their designers to create small to medium sized websites without coding. You can't create custom unique branded websites without coding with any other tool. It got to a point where clients themselves require webflow because it means easy, cheap, fast visual changes.
Wix had to rush to create their Editor X which is direct Webflow competition.
Yes it won't replace big sites that require complex CMSes and publishing flows. But it certainly has a niche.
TBH i think it will be super interesting if somebody made some kind of more open webflow style html/css editor that could be integrated to current CMSes and workflows. Like sections of pages that are handcrafted like this. Or your header/footer and blog are CMS but landing page is this super visual html/cms editor.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#470This is probably the only tech acquisition that's ever made me sad. I just hate Adobe so much. The nightmare of their installer, the weird store with horrible designs popping up when you activate normal ui stuff, the difficulty in canceling a subscription, and the stasis in their product and ui. Oh and the sloppiness of Lightroom on mac with it's weird ui and that it didn't even import and manage photos well. I've be…
Adobe's stock is down 17% on the news. So, it's bad for consumers. Bad for Adobe. Probably only good for the ego of a few executives and investment bankers.