TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants • Hacker News Board

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by whywhywhywhy » Mon, Aug 01, 2022, 9:58 AM UTC

ysavir wrote: post #230

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #180

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Personally I think Instagram (The core product, not stories or reels) is to today what Facebook and MySpace where back in the day. Obviously though that is being eroded away by Instagrams lack of confidence and insistence to fight TikTok, which I also find strange I mean yeah its a vertical feed of video but really why you go to it is really different for why you go to IG, TikTok has more in common with YouTube than…

> I mean yeah its a vertical feed of video but really why you go to it is really different for why you go to IG, TikTok has more in common with YouTube than IG. I imagine that's actually the point. IG has little need to build for the people currently on Instagram. They're getting that ad revenue already. Their goal is to get new people to join IG and trigger ad views, and TikTok proved that there's a huge crowd of pe…

I get what they're thinking but it's very small minded of them to just assume the existing people will stick around if you change the fundamental product they signed up for.

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by BeFlatXIII » Mon, Aug 01, 2022, 2:35 PM UTC

wizofaus wrote: post #454

BeFlatXIII wrote: post #448

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Beethoven (or the Beatles)'s influence was not what I disputed. Rather, I dispute the assumption that the fact that they are the most influential automatically means they are also the best or most innovative.

I don't see it as a debate about "best" or even really "most innovative", just about individuals (or pairs in the case of Lennon/McCartney) that achieved a level of greatness (in terms of what contributions they've made to human knowledge/creativity) that logically you might expect to see a lot more of today given the vastly greater number of humans in existence now.

I wonder if "levels of greatness" is a relative quantity. If fourteen living composers are objectively as good as Beethoven/Lennon/McCartney (as one may expect with a much larger population), none of them will be recognized as great as Bach.

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by lionkor » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 11:13 AM UTC

drdec wrote: post #429

lionkor wrote: post #143

tiny nitpick: > competition became all but impossible This means competition became everything but impossible, no? So, possible.

When used this way "all but" means nearly or almost. Another strange English idiom.

Do you have a source for this? Any mainline (or whichever) dictionary pick this up yet? Because as far as I know, it's just a misunderstanding, which most people don't notice.

Re: TikTok and the Fall of the Social-Media Giants

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Post by dentemple » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 12:17 PM UTC

popcorncowboy wrote: post #276

dentemple wrote: post #232

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As a late 30s individual, there's still plenty of niche communities to be pushed into once the algorithm figures out what people like us actually like. I haven't seen a single "20-something nobodies dancing" video since the day I downloaded the app. All I get on my feed is DnD stories, interesting math, physics, and history facts, and the occasional standup comedy routine. Exactly the sort of things that keep me, spe…

> Do a search for your actual interests, quickly swipe past the random things that pop up that you don't like, and soon, after a few days of this, you'll begin to see what tik tok's actually about. Or, like.. don't. I mean, great that you're having a blast, but this is a literal endorsement to "design your own skinner box". It's small comfort to be able to choose the colours of the bars on your windows.

If you don't use the app the way it's intended, you won't get the best experience. And since most people are actually aware of how Tik Tok works, then there's not much of a point of complaining about Tik Tok's lack of "interesting" content for you if you're not actually willing to engage with the software.