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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:04 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #229

vsareto wrote: post #119

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Quick recession, then back to the market always going up. And for longer time spans, it has always gone up.

> And for longer time spans, it has always gone up. Mostly because of utterly insane injections of cash into the economy, whether by unsafe lending practices creating money out of thin air (which ended up causing 2008ff) or by the central banks creating money out of thin air and buying up assets. Now, especially after two years of pandemic-related bailouts, there's no government whose balance sheet hasn't been hit ha…

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Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by tristanMatthias » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:04 PM UTC

YinglingLight wrote: post #406

deelowe wrote: post #303

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I started assuming this after Musk called that cave exploration expert in Thailand a pedophile.

When was this? There is a big difference between Elon Musk pre and post-March 2018. For reasons that would take weeks to explain.

Curious, what’s the TLDR on this? Or some resources to learn more?

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by brandmeyer » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:04 PM UTC

sokoloff wrote: post #121

treis wrote: post #103

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This is a "broken window" fallacy.

I think it's not the broken windows fallacy when it increases many remote workers' savings rate. That's different from the parable of paying a glazier for the window instead of a tailor for a suit, but rather having less money circulating in the economy when 20 days a month, I don't burn $5 of gasoline, eat a $2 lunch instead of a $15 lunch, and wear sweat pants instead of office clothes. That could be $3000 of spend…

The personal savings rate is well below pre-pandemic levels now.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PSAVERT

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by mdasen » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

YinglingLight wrote: post #406

deelowe wrote: post #303

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I started assuming this after Musk called that cave exploration expert in Thailand a pedophile.

When was this? There is a big difference between Elon Musk pre and post-March 2018. For reasons that would take weeks to explain.

It looks like it was July 15, 2018.

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/elon-musk-calls-diver-who-helpe...

If there's a big difference pre/post-March 2018, it would be nice if you could point people in a direction.

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by TremendousJudge » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #451

deelowe wrote: post #303

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I started assuming this after Musk called that cave exploration expert in Thailand a pedophile.

After that comment I decided never to buy a Tesla if I can afford one. Good car, scumbag CEO.

Haven't the alternatives caught up to them, anyway? Most of the EV coverage I see nowadays is for cars made by traditional manufacturers, and are always saying that they match teslas (or are big improvements, such as the f150 lightning)

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Post by res0nat0r » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

ethanbond wrote: post #218

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #209

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This reminds me of Musk's recent comments about "political attacks against him in the coming days". It has since been learned that he had been reached by Business Insider to comment about the sexual abuse case beforehand. He already knew that an article against him was coming so he framed the narrative before it even reached the public. I would not be surprised this was the same here. Tell everyone "Leave if you don'…

Yeah, since the BI story – and in particular his attempt to frontrun it and turn his personal legal troubles into a culture war battleground – I think we can assume pretty slimy tactics from Musk.

Also the 20% drop of $TSLA since he announced his idiotic bid for Twitter and the potential fallout from that I'm sure is related.

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Post by Havoc » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

That explains the back to office bold stance.

People are much more compliant when afraid of losing their livelihoods

Re: Tesla to Cut 10% of Jobs

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Post by daenz » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:07 PM UTC

plorkyeran wrote: post #457

daenz wrote: post #399

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Again, in order to think it's slimy, you have to make assumptions about what is true. In the instance you just described, you still have to assume that the "hit piece" isn't because he was starting to lean more Republican. I don't think we know why the accusation re-surfaced, do we?

The claim that he was a Democrat but is now starting to lean more Republican is itself a blatant lie based on his historical political donations.

Sometimes people support the candidate that happens to protect their interests more, and the color of their party doesn't really mean a lot.

Am I imagining that Trump and Elon were portrayed in the media as having a good relationship? Wouldn't you consider that leaning more Republican, especially considering Trump's radioactivity?

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Post by kube-system » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:08 PM UTC

arinlen wrote: post #402

bnt wrote: post #240

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Do you have any idea of the SIZE of some States and distances between HOMES, not just towns? Public transport is not feasible in some places, as are not bikes. Am I supposed to bike 30 miles for a gallon of milk? How do I bring it back?

> Do you have any idea of the SIZE of some States and distances between HOMES, not just towns? Is that even a serious argument? Public transportation networks are designed to serve urban areas, with specific solutions catered to specific combinations of travel distance and throughput. Hand-waiving by pointing out isolated individuals live in isolated areas means nothing. Mass transportation is designed to serve the m…

It's not just hermits that live far from urban centers in the US. The US is famous for sprawling contiguous suburbs.

Subway systems work well when people commute from the edges of a city to an urban center. Throw US suburbs into the mix, and you get some strange complications, like:

* suburbs that from adjacent cities that sprawl together -- the residents there may commute to different cities

* suburban office parks -- this makes it difficult to effectively meet people's needs with an affordable hub-and-spoke model, because large numbers of people commute not to the urban center, but between adjacent suburbs

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Post by andrew_ » Fri, Jun 03, 2022, 4:09 PM UTC

Came here hoping for insightful thoughts about the layoffs and market conditions only to be presented with a tidalwave of hate seemingly stemming from a lot of personal dislike of the Tesla CEO. There's been a lot of chatter lately about how HN is getting more and more negative, and this appears to be evidence of valid criticism.