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S.F. population fell 6.3%, most in nation, to lowest level since 2010

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Re: S.F. population fell 6.3%, most in nation, to lowest level since 2010

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This video only shows me what it looked like at a point in time years ago. It's not a comparison to the current situation. Crime is at historic lows for both property and assault in 2020. I know it went in 2021 but not enough to make the data show San Francisco is worse now than in the 80s, 70s , or 60s. https://www.ppic.org/publication/crime-trends-in-california/

You can believe statistics or your lyin' eyes.

Show me statistics

Re: S.F. population fell 6.3%, most in nation, to lowest level since 2010

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That's because leadership is failing. The correct response of leaders is to ignore wealthy citizens attempting to prop up their multi-million dollar 3bed4bath properties and let them know, "We're going to zone more areas for residential development, sorry. 2500 square foot homes shouldn't be $3 million in any area in America." And all these rich liberals - and they are liberals - use the same bullshit line over and o…

> let them know, "We're going to zone more areas for residential development, Why? This may seem deliberately naïve but in the context of the current discussion, why should more areas be zoned for residential if people are leaving the Bay Area? If there are residents who hate the Bay Area, can't afford it, and are no longer stuck there now that they can WFH then it sounds like they are cheerfully leaving. The wealthy…

The amount of residential zoning is NOT the problem. It is the restrictions on existing zoning.

People want to maintain a suburban way of life for a population that is changing into a city.

What right does a person have to prevent me from turning my home into a 4 unit apartment complex? No right, yet this is the rule that prevents suburbia from transforming into a city.

It is like a growing reptile refusing to shed.. Instead it stays put growing bigger and bigger until it's suffocates and explodes. The bay area has has already suffocated... the exodus is it's guts spilling out of a rupture in the skin.

Re: S.F. population fell 6.3%, most in nation, to lowest level since 2010

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I wonder how much residential property is still under Prop 13? My guess is that it's declined quite a bit in the last 20 years or so.

You’re probably thinking of rent control? Prop 13 applies to every property including commercial. You can also transfer reduced tax to your heirs or to another property of yours

Some houses that haven't changed hands since Prop 13 was enacted pay really low taxes. New houses and those that have changed hands since then are not under the really low tax rate. Yes, property taxes in California are lower in rates, but in general, the high value of property will still mean large tax property bills.

Re: S.F. population fell 6.3%, most in nation, to lowest level since 2010

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I agree, the western side is hardly a hellscape. I guess don't let the tourists know! San Francisco is really 2 different cities rather than 11 counties. West side (where I live) has some minor problems but otherwise offers the best mix of culture, places to eat, parks, and transit. Downtown is rife with problems and if someday it does get cleaned up, it will wonderful since the right density and transit is there.

I need a detailed list of places please! BART only gives me access to the less desirable parts of the city

BART goes plenty of nice places! If you get out at 16th or 24th, Valencia St one block over has lots of nice shops and bars. Head over to Folsom and 24th for lots of cheap shopping in what is like a little Mexico. Go see a show at New Mission / Alamo and get your lunch delivered to your seat while you watch a movie. Or make a reservation at Foreign Cinema and have a fancy dinner in a former theater.

Get out at Glen Park and and there's a the quaint Glen Park Village.

Get out at Balboa Park and head over a few blocks up Ocean for another neighborhood row of shops.

Or get on Muni Metro and take the KLM to West Portal. Or keep riding to Stonestown and do your shopping at Target, Wholefoods, or TJs, then go see a movie at the Regal.

Hop on the N and ride all the way out to La Playa and get yourself a cup of coffee and a sandwich at Java Beach. Then walk around the Sunset and see just how sleepy the western side is!

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