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> Back to original question and with genuine curiosity - what is 25Gbit for??? What a pointless question. I wish people would stop worrying about this instead of simply making it possible, so we can figure out what to do with it.
… but that’s what I’m asking. What can I do with it? As I mentioned above, I have 1Gig and can go up to 5Gig. What can I do with it??
My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#462I had 10gb internet on what was essentially a shared connection when I lived in Zürich. That, along with a surplus server I literally housed in my shoe closet, gave me the firepower I needed to prototype out something that led to two research grants which now employ myself and a new PhD student. We discount technological investments like this as being “too much” and “unpractical”, but we forget that, even if it only…
What exactly did you do on 10gb that couldn’t be accomplished on 1gb?
Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#463On behalf of all tech-minded Americans, I would like to say... I hate you. I just got a notice in the mail that my ISP is "upgrading" their network so now I can pay $200 USD/month to get a whopping 2gbps, which I actually thought was pretty amazing until I read your post. So, thanks. In all seriousness, congrats! You made a good case for why one would need that much bandwidth. Also, we need to catch up here. :)
Reading this thread, I am reminded of how cheap telco prices are in France: e.g. in 2020, fibre internet plans averaged between €26 and €28.35 (USD 28-30 at current rates) per month.[0] Mobile plans are also on the cheap side, to the point of being competitive with many third world countries (for example, I wasn't that impressed with prices in Thailand in 2020 for comparable plans, only a 1-2€ difference with what I…
Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#464Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly about gis/satellite data required such an insane uplink?
25Gbps is not insane if you are using commodity hardware. If you are buying any sort of datacenter switch, most likely it will be 25G/100G already. 10G/40G is dead tech. Now, 400G uplinks are still pretty reserved, but 100G (and its' breakout, 4 x 25G) is common as dirt now.
This is quite efficient due to the PCIe4 support not hogging many lanes (half of the 8 lanes can be enough depending on usage), but to use the speed one needs a 25G switch. Is the cheapest way just an Ryzen with 5 of these directly attached to the CPU, and running routing on the CPU via DPDK?
[0]: https://geizhals.eu/qnap-lan-adapter-qxg-25g2sf-cx6-a2609459...
Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#465This is great for sporadic (very high peak to average consumption), residential type of use. Sharing such a high speed link across many subscribers is great. But in no way is this capable of running high bandwidth streaming servers, datacenter-like, from your home, as some are suggesting. Just 4 customers like that would consume the entire bandwidth. No sane ISP would allow even 1 customer to use all their 25G, continuously, that they might argue they paid for.
The peering/transit that the ISP has is also a hugely important factor to how "good" this 25G connection really is.
I'm not knocking it -- I wish I could get even 100M. But at the end of the day, a 1G connection that many USA city dwellers can get will be just as useful as the provisioning of such will be vastly different than the provisioning of this 25G service.
Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#466Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly about gis/satellite data required such an insane uplink?
What exactly is insane about it? I was surprised when my parents had 1Gbit in 2009. I was delighted when I could get 500Mbit in 2013. I'm slightly miffed that I don't even get 1Gbit in 2022. I literally laugh at providers attempting to convince me to get whatever with 10 or 20Mbit uplink speeds, in 2022l Yes, they exist. Anyhow. What's insane about a 10Gbit uplink? I wired up my apartment for 1Gbit in 2001. I've been…
10gig is insane.
Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#467Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#468Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not 1998 any more, you've got multiple TCP streams, things like QUIC and other UDP based protocols, and of course good old fashioned window scaling which will go upto an 8gbit window, so as long as you've got an rtt under 300ms you'll be fine at 25gbit.
I thought window was pretty limited on modern OS?
Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#469Does anyone have a good primer about optical networking links? Single and multimode fiber, connectors, transcievers, etc. When and why you would choose different technologies, how much they cost, etc. I'm realizing that I have a large hole in my knowledge there. Google is full of mid-tier SEO garbage as usual.
https://www.nanog.org/news-stories/nanog-tv/top-talks/tutori...
You can check pricing on any of the many online stores, such as Fiberstore.
r/fiberoptics for questions and discussions
Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home
#470Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly about gis/satellite data required such an insane uplink?
25Gbps is not insane if you are using commodity hardware. If you are buying any sort of datacenter switch, most likely it will be 25G/100G already. 10G/40G is dead tech. Now, 400G uplinks are still pretty reserved, but 100G (and its' breakout, 4 x 25G) is common as dirt now.