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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by cloutchaser »

cosmotic wrote: post #323
voisin wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you do speak for the majority. I am a fairly heavy Podcast consumer (I run a lot and like to listen to them), and JRE is consistently among my top two (always a battle with the ever great Rich Roll) because of the sheer diversity of guests he has on. I don’t care for MMA or most of the comedians so I skip those but that’s fine because Rogan is so prolific that there will be something interesting in the next f…

Over-sexualization is a bit different than legitimizing COVID denial and quack medicine and so are the consequences of each.

Really? The guy with the psychedelic third eye logo is legitizing something?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Snowden/status/148718316166680576...

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by rhizome »

TrispusAttucks wrote: post #297
afavour wrote: post #188

I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…

Spotify competing with YouTube isn't the root problem. The people calling for censorship are the problem. This is the latest attack in an ongoing war on free speech. We are losing our freedoms. Today it's Joe Rogan's speech tomorrow it's yours.

What's the difference between censorship and editorial policy? If anything, what makes this instance censorship?

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Post by vogt »

waffle_maniac wrote: post #232
nomilk wrote: post #224

This is bigger than Spotify. Rogan was a proactive person conducting open research into the world around him. When proactive people investigate things and share their findings, it now only takes a few to dislike the findings, fuss, and have the findings removed. To those that support this, I have 4 questions: 1. Is disincentivising sharing knowledge really good for the world? 2. Is it reasonable to expect 100% of inq…

He has fringe people on his show to drive engagement. Fauci is not going to pay the bills.

Spoken like somebody who hasn't even bothered to scroll through the list of episodes for even a cursory few seconds (which seems to be the norm among JRE critics). Do Snoop Dogg, Jewel, or Jim Gaffigan strike you as "fringe people"? Oliver Stone? Chuck Palhaniuk? Joe has stated ad nauseum that he invites guests that he finds to be interesting people. Why folks continue to try and reduce the breadth of guests to the 10% fringe is beyond me. Some combination of ideology and laziness, if I had to guess.

>Fauci is not going to pay the bills.

Is that why Disney just released a feature film documentary about him? Complete with red carpet gala and a monster Disney+ promotion?

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by npteljes »

buzzwords wrote: post #420

Open Web is truly dead. It's such a shame too. Learning other people's view, even if you don't agree with them is an important part growing. I have to say, I am quite resentful of people now. Because there was such amazing tool that you could learn other people's view and thoughts and a handful of loud mouths killed it.

Why would it be dead, if you can find the missing episodes on the Open Web?

Also, why would a content service policing its own content be in any way related to "The Open Web"?

Now if the domain providers, ICANN, ISPs, or any such internet utility entities would be actively doing this, that'd be a story about the web openness. Not a large streaming service deciding what to stream. Joe himself sold out to this entity knowing about this precise outcome. This has nothing to do with the web itself.

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Post by hnarn »

I don't really understand why anyone who claims to be a proponent of a free market economy has an issue with a private corporation deciding what type of content they want to broadcast.

JR sold his catalog of intellectual property (podcast episodes) of his own free will and was paid very well for it: about $100M from what I can gather. What Spotify chooses to do with it is completely up to them, even if they bought it with the express intention of "burning" it all, i.e. never broadcasting it, that would still not be censorship. That would be nothing but exercising their intellectual property rights, that they paid for, just like buying the rights to a song that you hate to stop that specific recording from ever being played again is within your right, or even negotiating with the artist to never play it again.

He signed a "multi-year" exclusive deal (the details are fuzzy, for obvious reasons) which means he sold his trademark and time for money, which is how the market works.

Exactly what he sold (NDA, limitations on his speech in his free time etc.) we'll probably never know, but whoever calls this "censorship" needs a reality check. There exists plenty of proper censorship in the world if you look for it, and this isn't it.

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Post by rasz »

ifyoubuildit wrote: post #267
jcims wrote: post #250

I grew up around evangelical Christians. The negative reaction to Rogan *feels* exactly like the clucking and tutting about 'dangerous ideas' that I've heard from the more cellophane elements of that crew.

Yeah, it feels like theres a new kind of conservativism being born in the last couple years.

New? D&D will turn your child into a Satanist. 40 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic
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