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Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by vanilla_nut »

ghaff wrote: post #163
tptacek wrote: post #144

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Discussing only on the merits of their content, and stipulating that this is neither here nor there with respect to Netflix's long-term prospects vs. HBO: Breaking Bad isn't an HBO show. So I assume we're just asking, "has Netflix produced any world-class content". The answer to that is yes. The jewel in their crown, their "Game of Thrones", is clearly Stranger Things. It's undeniably successful, each new season a cu…

House of Cards was certainly a big thing at the time--for the first few seasons anyway. Queen's Gambit. GLOW and Russian Doll were quite good. I'm not a huge fan of The Crown but it's well done. Honestly, Game of Thrones notwithstanding, I'm not sure that there's a lot on HBO I consider must see level content either although some is quite good. I'd probably consider them about a wash for content.

I am still upset that they canned GLOW. I think the folks who decide to kill shows at Netflix severely underestimate market faith that they’ll keep a show around — as others have mentioned, there’s little more frustrating in the TV space than a show that leaves mysteries and plots hanging.

Considering they have a lot more flexibility than your average network, I’m surprised Netflix hasn’t made movies or mini-seasons to wrap up stories more common. That would be a huge improvement over what they’ve done with a lot of their original content that didn’t quite make the cut.

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Post by gremlinsinc »

discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

I actually like their content, but I do feel like they'll eventually fizzle out... the only chance they have to compete w/ Disney is join forces w/ Amazon, or just sell out to Disney.

Either of those would make me happy cause then it'd presumably be a bundled service... maybe $15 for hulu, netflix, and disney+. or slightly higher prime membership but much better content+interface. (Hopefully prime would move all their free stuff for prime members just to the netflix apps/ui/etc.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by gremlinsinc »

pnathan wrote: post #270
samwillis wrote: post #35

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While I don't entirely agree with you I do think the price of Netflix is getting a little higher than the value we personally get out of it. Our personal breakdown this year (in the UK): Adults in the house, we are quite picky but if we love it then we will keep watching: Netflix @£9.99: 2 tv shows, 4-5 films Apple TV+ @£4.99: 3 tv shows, 2 films Disney Plus @£7.99: 1 tv show, Loads of movies Amazon Prime @£7.99: 3 t…

After having sampled Disney+, HBOMax, Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime a fair bit in the past year, my take is that Netflix has the UX nailed. I can, for instance, "thumbs down" a recommendation. Some offerings I never want to see. Their catalog tends to the darker themes, and I'm not fond of that. Hulu and Amazon Prime are mostly irrelevant to me. I'll probably axe the Hulu sub. HBO has a few things I like. Disney+ t…

I've been saying for a long time they need to team up, or a 3rd party and create bundles... that's basically $40/month and you get HBO, Netflix, Hulu, Prime, Disney+, Apple -- and the $40 is split $5 to the 3rd party company, and then based on 'hours watched' by users... so you can watch whatever and whoever you watch the most of gets the majority stake in your monthly fees.

As a bonus this actually encourages them to work hard for your views.

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Post by gremlinsinc »

ethbr0 wrote: post #386
sedatk wrote: post #381

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UX is a night and day difference between Netflix and its competitors. It's mind-boggling that the giants like Disney and HBO can't even get close. It's especially more noticeable on slow devices like Smart TV's.

It's the minor things that jump out to me. Peacock uses a white glow around the preview picture as their selection indicator. No border. Just a faint glow. HBO Max has no way of navigating to a show page from your most recently viewed carousel. You have to find or search the show separately. It's death by a thousand cuts, but jesus... use your competitor's app. See what UX works and what doesn't. I can't imagine any…

I spent 30 minutes once trying to get out of the credits for a Disney+ show and go to the episodes..back took me to the main page, and clicking the show took me right back into the episode exactly where I left off in the credits... I guess it was the last ep but I wasn't sure, and even tried fast forwarding to the end ...cause it was really long Marvel credits.

It should always take you to a show page, from there you should have options to continue or see info or go to episodes, etc...

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Post by gremlinsinc »

bradknowles wrote: post #395
gtaylor wrote: post #313

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I feel like there are two minutes of ads for every ten minutes of content on Hulu. It's ridiculous that you have to pay even more for an experience that is similar to the flat rate on Netflix and Disney+.

I refuse to watch anything on Hulu. Every time my wife insists and makes me watch something she really, really wants to see on Hulu, I am reminded of why I refuse to watch it. And yes, we have the highest level of Hulu+ that is supposed to avoid most ads.

I'm the same.... though we did watch Catherine the Great and that Murder Podcast one w/ Martin Short /Steve Martin...

The thing that irks me w/ Hulu -- we have kids sleeping and it'll be soft for the actual show, then the ad comes in and it's like 5 decibals louder. and we have to physically just mute the commercials... it's the most annoying thing ever!

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Post by stjohnswarts »

cableshaft wrote: post #260
newsbinator wrote: post #236

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Of those 20 bad movies, the majority are the fun-to-watch kind. Even the descriptions in the post grudgingly admit that many of these bad movies 1) did well at the box office and 2) developed a cult following: > Cobra failed with critics and was a disappointment. It's one of the worst movies of the 80s. However, turns out the fans loved it. It soon gained a massive cult following. It follows a basic action movie form…

I think I agree with you, in fact it gave me a few movies I hadn't seen that are now on my to-watch list (and a couple to rewatch, like Tango & Cash). But at least it's a better list of action movies that haven't aged as well than Terminator 2, Robocop, and Die Hard.

If you like those I bet you'll like the "recent" judge dredd movie with karl urban.

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

npteljes wrote: post #363
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #122

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Yep, youtube then wonders why people use adblocks, and publishers wonder why people are starting to pirate again.

This argument is a strawman, come on, is YouTube really wondering about any content consumption habit after being the most popular video portal for more than a decade? It's all just doing business, and all of that is just part of doing business. If enough people block youtube's ad domains, they'll just start embedding them in the video stream. And then just obfuscate the player so that you can't make it skip. Then ma…

ads are already embedded in the stream, usually by youtubers themselves ("this video is sponsored by shadow nord raid vpn,..."), and extensions block this too.

But once the ad to content ratio gets bad (and we're getting there), people just move elsewhere.

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Post by mixmastamyk »

Joeri wrote: post #230
inanutshellus wrote: post #192

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Youtube is pretty magical. It has everything, even in the "kid zone". Which also means I can't leave them unsupervised for 30 minutes and come back. If I do, my kids will've gone from educational video about the rain forest to sponsored video to toy videos to slime to fart jokes to music videos of bikini-clad bimbos to steamy romance videos to ... Anyway it's just too much work to curate youtube for a child, IMO. For…

My kids couldn’t handle youtube. They would watch algorithmically created garbage (5yo) or endless game streaming (9yo) and be impossible to handle afterwards. First we did youtube time-outs, but every time we added it back into the mix we saw their behavior get worse, so eventually we banned youtube outright. Give me a curated platform like disney or netflix any day.

Youtube is not for kids; TOS does not allow it.

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Post by mixmastamyk »

samwillis wrote: post #35
discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

While I don't entirely agree with you I do think the price of Netflix is getting a little higher than the value we personally get out of it. Our personal breakdown this year (in the UK): Adults in the house, we are quite picky but if we love it then we will keep watching: Netflix @£9.99: 2 tv shows, 4-5 films Apple TV+ @£4.99: 3 tv shows, 2 films Disney Plus @£7.99: 1 tv show, Loads of movies Amazon Prime @£7.99: 3 t…

To restrict a kids profile you need to go to the website and reduce their rating ceiling, then put a passcode on the other profiles.

Probably needs a recent client as well. One of our tablets couldn’t upgrade, believe it was because it was on Android 4.x or something.

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Post by hotz »

qudat wrote: post #113
discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

Once The Office, Parks and Rec, and 30 Rock were removed from Netflix I haven't needed to resub since. The only sub I permanently keep is YoutubePremium.

Only one I haven't seen in the South African catalogue is 30 Rock. I've been binging Parks and Rec. I blame the licencing agreements.
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