I'm a city apartment dweller, and I'm not the usual demographic for this truck, but given the price point, and value this provides, ford has my attention, and I would definitely consider buying this if I can get a charger installed in my apartment complex.
2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
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#462There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…
As someone who comes from a rural area but drives an EV, my whole issue with trucks is that 90% of the people I know that have trucks do not need them for work, it sort of a status symbol in rural America. A lot of these trucks are huge, not your standard truck, but more like a tank. Trucks get shitty gas mileage and potentially cause more wear and tear on the public roads, and are definitely not good for the environ…
Where (and how) do you draw the line with gas mileage, materials used, and weight of the vehicle? If trucks are so bad, what are your opinions of popular SUVs like the Subaru Outback?
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Story from when we moved to Montana 20 years ago: We buy a freezer at Costco. Checking out, we ask for details on delivery. Costco employee says "Oh, we don't deliver". We had been used to Costco in CA which at the time would deliver large items. I ask "Well, how do people get big things like freezers home". Costco person says "Easy, just put it in your pickup, we'll help you load". "Hmm...we don't own a pickup". Cos…
Or just rent a pickup when you need it for $50 a day? Fancy-boy pickups easily cost upwards of $50k.
Depends. If you're using it a handful of times a year, sure, rent it. If you're using it every weekend or two, coordinating picking up and returning a rental adds a lot of work to an already (generally) busy day.
Also, don't get a fancy-boy pickup. You can get a capable truck under $10K if you look around for a bit, and it will pay for itself in no time if you do a lot of your own work around the house.
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The occasional heavy-duty trip is a reasonable use case for a range extender (as in, an IC engine gen-set) either towed or on the truck bed.
The idea of having a gas-powered generator in the bed of an electric truck is both genius and hilarious to me.
If you could fit it into the "frunk" (godawful name) then um, it would be just like the ICE version.
Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
#465There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…
> It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. When a vehicle is driving in front of my house with a grill that's a foot higher than my oldest child... yeah, I don't much like those aesthetics. And it has nothing to do with "moving stuff". The UPS delivery vans that are actually built to, ya know, move stuff, have lower grills and way safer sight lines.
Maybe you have different UPS trucks where you live. But the UPS trucks where I live are far bigger than pickup trucks. The drivers sit much higher, and the grill comes up just as high, or higher.
There is also a huge variability in pickup sizes because many of them have been customized. But truthfully the standard stock pickup truck doesn't have a grill much different than many SUVs. In fact most SUVs are built on truck frames.
So I know there are trucks out there that have been lifted with 24" tires. But the standard truck that you buy from your dealership isn't much different than an SUV in size. They might be longer because of the bed... but your concern seems to be height, and they are often identical to SUVs.
Edit: Crossovers are a bit different. Those are designed to be more like cars (hence the name). But a standard SUV is usually built on a truck frame. So the body is different, but the main vehicle is similar in size.
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#466I get to eat my hat somewhat. I hope it's tasty. Just a few days ago I made the comment that the Cybertruck's killer feature is it's $40K price tag, if and only if that price tag actually happens. I said that Ford could not make a decent EV F-150 at that price point unless they throw their dealerships under the bus. And here we are with a $40K EV F-150. I'm glad I added the caveats though -- the $40K F150 is for comm…
I expect that a real advantage to an EV F150 over any Tesla truck (or car) will be repair costs, most particularly collision repairs.
Of course, they'll always cost more than the estimates, plus you get to throw in sales tax and the annual registration tithe to the state.
I'm always surprised that people are willing to spend so much on new vehicles but I guess it keeps the money moving through the economy. The spice must flow.
Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
#467There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…
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Trucks are more dangerous to pedestrians because of the higher and flatter front--means people end up underneath rather than above if they are struck. I understand why they kept the look the same and why they used that space but in the future would prefer that they made changes to make it safer for everyone and not just the occupants. The high hoods make for poor visibility around the front.
Thank you. As a cyclist and pedestrian (who does own a normally-sized car), I was getting pretty frustrated by the lack of safety discussed in the comments. https://twitter.com/lloydalter/status/1395326192908218371?s=...
I agree this is less safe for pedestrians, which matters in cities, but it is maybe safer in rural areas? I'd much rather hit a deer or moose going 80 in a tall truck then a short truck. Also, in my experience, people drive much slower in smaller towns, and are therefore less likely to hit a pedestrian or cyclist.
Plus the added visibility is nice and certainly would increase safety, I would think.
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I would be really interested in understanding the breakdown in F150's as sold by model number. For a lot of truck owners, there's going to be some resistance because they love having a v8 engine etc. I don't see those people moving over quickly (although they might be swayed by the acceleration/speed). But if you're using one as a tradesperson, this seems like an absolute no-brainer. You're not driving enormous dista…
Many new trucks have used turbo V6s instead of V8s for awhile now. There’s definitely some buyers who just want the sound of a V8 or don’t quite trust the reliability of a twin turbo BUT I think more people would be open to electric than you would think, even in people primarily just using them for transportation
I know a few people who tow big trailers, and they buy the V8 because once you hook up a real load the turbo kicks in and you are burning just as much gas. They figure that larger engine without a turbo is probably going to last a lot longer. Those who use the truck for a mix, sometimes with the trailer, sometimes with small loads opt for the turbo v6 and like it just fine, but they all agree if towing is the real goal get the v8. (or better yet get a diesel, and a bigger truck)
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The level of "you don't need that!" judgement is weird. I guess it's just a matter of degree though. Here in the southeast US if somebody drives a pickup instead of a sedan or minivan or whatever, it doesn't register as unusual or excessive. I don't think twice about it, it's just another kind of vehicle. But then again, I do notice (and sometimes make fun) if they've got a lift kit on it, tow mirrors when I've never…
Indeed. 1/3 vehicles here are pickups, 1/3 comparably large SUVs & minivans & Jeep Wranglers, 1/3 sedans. Contrast NY having 3/4 sedans. Considering vehicle sizes & speeds here, wife doesn’t feel safe in anything smaller than an older Ford Explorer SUV.
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