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Re: India’s second wave

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Post by vram22 »

lolthishuman wrote: post #455
vram22 wrote: post #434

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Har de har har. Pot calling the kettle black, you jingoistic freak. I notice you did not address even a single one of the points in my comment that you replied to just above. Typical age-old cowardly attention-diverting rabble-rousing tactic, well-known to all. Spout more bile to your heart's content. I will not dignify your trollery / tomfoolery with a reply. I'm done with this thread.

Nonsense has no right to a reply. Trying to shed some light is only right. May you be well.

One final blast from the past, to you (I can break my own rules about not replying to frigtards, if I choose, and this is more to let other newish HN users see the kinds of slimy tricks people like you use to confuse issues when they are caught out in lies):

>Nonsense has no right to a reply.

True. I guess that is why you keep replying to me. /s

HN user lolthishuman, you are clearly an attention-seeking missile, probably because of having no good life, as I said about you here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26904682

As said there, I saw from your HN comment history, that you were downvoted by users in many other HN threads, sometimes to a shade of light grey. Shows what many HNers think of your comments, lolthis(sub)human.

Downvoted, baby, downvoted. You even said in one of your comments that you feel like a "trapped animal".

We can understand, that is why you feel like striking out randomly at people. Trapped animals do that.

>Trying to shed some light is only right.

Wow, now animals can rhyme. Progress. /s

"Trying to shed light" on "nonsense that has no right to a reply"? Hee hee hee. You are fucked and exposed as a liar and fool by your own words. You cannot even be internally consistent in your statements about me, moron.

>May you be well.

Don't try to sound morally superior after attacking me earlier, fraud. I much prefer an honest villian to a dishonest seemingly mild person. FO.

May you soon be tranquil(lized by an animal dart gun).

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

ls612 wrote: post #439
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #403

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> no medical purpose The first reason I gave was medical. Maybe you missed it? It's the one marked with a 0. > It prevents others from seeing my face I'm sure it's a very nice face. What if you carry a photo of it on a necklace? Best of both worlds. > over half of eligible Americans have received "Eligible" is a weasel word in this context because it artificially constrains the set of people that you're taking into a…

When we get to a point soon where the only people without immunity are either intransigent anti-vaxxers (for whom its their own fault if they get sick) or small children (who only get sick very rarely from covid, much more rarely than even young adults) then we can just ignore the disease as a society. Yes, over time variants will evolve and cause cold like symptoms in vaccinated people, but that's how every single c…

> for whom its their own fault if they get sick

You appear to be focusing exclusively on individuals instead of on the fact that spreading to to those individuals also rolls the dice on new mutated strains that could kill another half million Americans and cause major vascular and neurologic harm in millions more, including those who are already vaccinated. Protecting the intransigent from themselves also protects everyone else.

> for the rest of their lives

This is a straw man. Everyone advocating for mask use has the goal of stamping out the disease so that wearing masks stops being clearly beneficial.

> The idea being thrown around that people should continue to wear masks ... is just not justifiable.

From a public health perspective it would be. On one side we have the potential for significantly reduced viral transmission (all oronasal-route viruses, not just COVID19) across populations and fewer people getting sick and dying every year, and on the other side we have your pretty smile. Everyone who decides that they can still interact socially without spitting on each other has actually a perfect justification for wanting everyone to continue using masks.

You appear to be communicating in very immediate self-oriented terms ("_I'm_ vaccinated", "odds of _me_ having", "_my_ face") while the people you're arguing against are focusing on a bigger scale of effect that accounts for what happens when the virus that killed more than half a million people in a year in the US alone and which appears to cause serious long-term harm in survivors is allowed to mutate in unvaccinated people.

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by mikem170 »

supernovae wrote: post #456
mikem170 wrote: post #375

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> shut down for the survival of your species Do you really believe the survival of our species is at stake? There have been 1754 covid-19 deaths per million people in the USA since the start of the pandemic [0], a seemingly reliable number. That works out to 1 out of 570 people that have died of covid. Mostly older and less healthy folks. Part of the problem may be that not everyone is that scared. Living in democrac…

It doesn't matter how I framed it... take it however you want. Here in texas, people were lined up for miles to buy guns because we were borderline on the edge of failing. People were stocking up food, toilet paper, supplies. We weren't talking about taking care of each other, we were focusing on gimmics we thought would help us survive what many expected to be collapse. We had a failed presidency, we had a failed re…

You intentionally chose the words you said, but it doesn't matter how you framed it?

Ok, maybe we should back up. I objected to your "survival of your species" characterization of the pandemic, but am happy to agree to leave that aside, some hyperbole in the heat of the moment I guess. I wasn't sure, because it appears there are people who feel that way. Like you said, people overreacted, buying guns, stockpiling, afraid to leave the house, etc. Some people are still overreacting, expecting the worst at every turn.

As the science and data continue to roll in we find that this is not as bad as was once feared. Lately I've been reading the recent articles/studies on how this is an airborne aerosol, which means the cloth masks everyone have been wearing may not have made much of a difference. The CDC now appears to be trying to talk people down, letting them know that surface transmission is not a significant factor, that we don't need to wear masks outside, etc. It's may be the case where find out in the end that the lockdowns were a waste of time and that aggressive contact tracing was the only thing that worked.

This thread got into talking about democracy and lockdowns. A lot lot of people don't think this is as big a disaster as you do. 1 out of 570 people dead, skewing older with comorbidities, doesn't strike many people as a disaster. Many people don't accept the premise that the lockdowns are worth it, and therefore don't want to spend the money supporting those same lockdowns like you suggested. They would rather live their lives as close to normal as practical. They don't feel the need to assign political blame for a pandemic that caught almost the entire planet by surprise. They have a vote, the same as you. They feel just as strongly as you. Difficult situation, eh?

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by aliswe »

KorematsuFred wrote: post #232
fareesh wrote: post #216

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Democracy is the system of elected representatives. You can elect a government that is completely opposed to welfare programs. India has some of the hardest working people in the world, and it's a shame the way many have been treated by government programs. Government handouts have created a culture in which many of the poor are at the mercy of corrupt bureaucrats just to get by. "What's that you say? Your rice allot…

I was born poor. One american idea that does resonate with me after coming to USA is that a lot of poor people do not see themselves as poor. While their struggles are real they do not see themselves as losers but rather see themselves as strugglers who will eventually make it some day. They make life better for themselves and others. That was the case with my family. We lived in a house whose floor was basically pai…

> ... who will eventually make it some day

I believe there is a term for this, "temporarily embarrassed millionaires"

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by lolthishuman »

vram22 wrote: post #461
lolthishuman wrote: post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nonsense has no right to a reply. Trying to shed some light is only right. May you be well.

One final blast from the past, to you (I can break my own rules about not replying to frigtards, if I choose, and this is more to let other newish HN users see the kinds of slimy tricks people like you use to confuse issues when they are caught out in lies): >Nonsense has no right to a reply. True. I guess that is why you keep replying to me. /s HN user lolthishuman, you are clearly an attention-seeking missile, prob…

Sorry you have so much negativity. I’ll be your friend.

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by MaxDPS »

vmception wrote: post #334
saas_sam wrote: post #275

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I remember the same exact thing being said about Wuhan. That urns were completely sold out, that the gov't was covering it up, just terrible. To date China insists less than 5,000 people died of Covid, though and all of that was conspiracy talk.

Crematorium's in Los Angeles had to get the smog pollution limit lifted so they could cremate more https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/0... so this suggests that its not conspiracy talk as all forms of governing systems around the world experienced the exact same issues all forms of governing systems had bad data, intentionally hidden data, and inadequate forms of transparency depending on whet…

The difference being that reported deaths in Los Angeles county up ‘till now are about 20,000.

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by abanayev »

dang wrote: post #236
abanayev wrote: post #208

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[flagged]

If there's a workaround, it's ok. Users usually post workarounds in the thread. This is in the FAQ at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and there's more explanation here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

Thanks! did not see that before. Will keep the complaints to myself :)

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by vram22 »

lolthishuman wrote: post #465
vram22 wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One final blast from the past, to you (I can break my own rules about not replying to frigtards, if I choose, and this is more to let other newish HN users see the kinds of slimy tricks people like you use to confuse issues when they are caught out in lies): >Nonsense has no right to a reply. True. I guess that is why you keep replying to me. /s HN user lolthishuman, you are clearly an attention-seeking missile, prob…

Sorry you have so much negativity. I’ll be your friend.

Fuck yeah, great idea. Let's meet right now at the Hotel California! Such a lovely place. :) /s We are probably in different locations but we can get there instantly by astral travel. It's free, too, beggar. Go go go! /g .

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P.S. Do you also usually say "pretty please, with cherries on top?" Mwahahahahahahahahahahahha. Ffffrrrriiiiggggttttaaaarrrrdddd ....

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by dang »

lolthishuman wrote: post #465
vram22 wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One final blast from the past, to you (I can break my own rules about not replying to frigtards, if I choose, and this is more to let other newish HN users see the kinds of slimy tricks people like you use to confuse issues when they are caught out in lies): >Nonsense has no right to a reply. True. I guess that is why you keep replying to me. /s HN user lolthishuman, you are clearly an attention-seeking missile, prob…

Sorry you have so much negativity. I’ll be your friend.

We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines. Please stop creating accounts to do that with. It's vandalism if not arson, and will get your main account banned as well.

Re: India’s second wave

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Post by dang »

vram22 wrote: post #332
lolthishuman wrote: post #153

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So based on a belief you don’t actually understand. Got it.

Fool or troll or prejudiced frigtard that you undoubtedly are, where, above, have I said that I don't understand it? If I haven't said it, it is your wrong understanding or claim (unless there is good evidence), which is why I 'decorated' you with those above adjectives :), just as you implied wrong shit about me. Dry up and blow away, weakling. Don't pollute this space for your pathetic ego-boosting kicks. Update: A…

You broke the site guidelines so badly in this thread that I've banned the account. You can't do that here, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are or how badly they behave.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

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