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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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But don’t forget Microsoft let IE rot for years and that is what drove the interest - and the protest - for alternatives and helped Flash thrive. Today Chrome is a fairly good platform, tons of support for all sorts of html extensions, and a very strong commitment to security. It’s a really nice product, except for the strings attached. Alphabet should be broken up and Chrome (OS) spun off into its own business; the…

Interestingly, this type of perspective is only gained in hindsight. For example, I could see a future, say in 10 years, where we have a vastly better way to browse the web and then we will look back on today and think that Chrome(ium) was coasting on its past success and only providing minor new features (while ensuring that ads continue to be as profitable as possible).

Uh? Did you even remember IE? How are the two scenarios even remotely comparable? It was abandon-ware, after Netscape was crushed Ballmer couldn’t imagine anything useful for IE.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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I just tried FF again today for the first time in months and updated to the latest Mac version and...I found the Quit feature didn't work. Neither Command-Q nor Quit option from the menu...And it's something like this every time I try it -- there another wtf moment with the first 5 minutes.

What you describe has always worked just fine on my Firefox/Mac installations.

A quick google reveals a large number of people facing the same issue every year, going back to at least 2014.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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I would use Firefox + uBlock Origin over other browsers even if it was half as fast.

In what way is Firefox not fast? I typically run it right alongside Chrome (Firefox for personal stuff, Chrome for work) and don't notice much of a difference switching between them. If anything, Firefox is faster.

I see quite a big difference for sites that rely heavily on JS, especially on MacOS.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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post #359

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But don’t forget Microsoft let IE rot for years and that is what drove the interest - and the protest - for alternatives and helped Flash thrive. Today Chrome is a fairly good platform, tons of support for all sorts of html extensions, and a very strong commitment to security. It’s a really nice product, except for the strings attached. Alphabet should be broken up and Chrome (OS) spun off into its own business; the…

Broken up by politicians? Ya, hard no. Just stop using it! Stop forcing your choices on people. No one has to use chrome, google search, gmail, etc. There are alternatives to all your problems, open source ones too.

>Stop forcing your choices on people

This will never stop, and essentially defines the realm of "politics". Either you and people like-minded that share your views collectivize to protect your preferences from others forcing theirs upon you, or you lose.

This includes monopoly corporations that acquire power to restrict your ability to choose. And just wishing it weren't so, or asking people to stop achieves nothing. People won't, so your only choice is to protect your own turf however you can. "Libertarian" style abstaining from this fight ensures you lose, so is an impotent strategy.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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post #444

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The government is chosen by the people and enforced by their choice to make decisions. A company without control is cancer. Just look at Nestle, Facebook and Google and plenty of others abusing their size and that people are NOT rational entities en masse. A government should (and they are the only thing that can) step up against these abuses.

Products are chosen by 'the people' (consumers) too.

Products are chosen by a weighted sample of the people, according to how much money somebody has access to. "Vote with your wallet" means that different people have different sized votes. "Vote with your wallet" is an inherently anti-democratic phrase.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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> I am inclined to predict that the option to use ad blockers may come to an end because browsers and other software financed with online ad-derived revenue have full control over what extensions users are allowed to run. They have full control over that system for extending the functionality of their software. I have a feeling that if Chrome (for instance) went that route it would quickly become Internet Explorer'd.…

That worked back then. Ten years ago, browsers were, compared to today, ridiculously simple and thus could easily be replaced. I wouldn't be surprised if today's Chrome had more LoC than Linux in 2010. Also, the mobile platform might be a good indicator of what ordinary people are willing to put up with. Chrome doesn't support extensions there, so everybody and their uncle is browsing the web with the full ad experie…

It would be hard to write a browser from scratch now that had the features of a modern browser, but creating a first-class browser is much easier than it has ever been because of Chromium and Firefox.

I agree that mobile is the direction many things are headed, but currently it's very easy to install any number of (sometimes shady) browsers from the Google app store that include ad blocking.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Products are chosen by 'the people' (consumers) too.

Products are chosen by a weighted sample of the people, according to how much money somebody has access to. "Vote with your wallet" means that different people have different sized votes. "Vote with your wallet" is an inherently anti-democratic phrase.

How much money somebody has access to is directly correlated with how much time (of which everybody gets the same 24 hours a day) they spend on trying to earn money. People who care less about money will earn less and that is their own fault.

The same is true in politics. Those who shout the loudest, win. A big wallet helps too. Ever heard of lobbying?

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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It's only a matter of time before someone develops a wasm browser engine that renders to canvas and provides "trusted" delivery of ad assets over a websocket.

As long as the user still has control over their machine (i.e. the browser) this approach doesn't work very well. You can't really run trusted code on an untrusted machine.

No, it does work well. When they deliver the website as obfuscated binary code, it's much harder for user to change its behavior. Notice parent quoted the word "trusted" so you disagree with something other than they meant.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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post #445

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They didn't suggest a boycott. Each individual consumer decision makes a difference in aggregate. Every failed business in history is a result of consumer decisions away from what they have to offer, so I don't particularly understand that rationale.

People are “easy” to manipulate, especially when your control reaches basically every aspect of their life. Hiding/downplaying few articles here, shoving another into my face there with an opaque algorithm will achieve basically anything over a long time. Also, you underestimate the effect of laziness. A company really has to do some atrocious thing to result in people leaving its services. Like, what would make the…

I'm going to rephrase my original comment, which got flagged: There's inherent hypocrisy in having the biggest monopoly of them all regulate smaller monopolies. Because they're 'monopolies'. Right.
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