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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by hannasanarion »

neartheplain wrote: post #430
hannasanarion wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quick question, how many BLM mobs beat two cops to death with flagpoles? How many built gallows and rushed into government buildings with handcuffs looking for politicians to execute? How many battered down the door to the room where the Vice President and Speaker of the House were hiding chanting "Hang Pence, Hang Pelosi"? And how many of them were inspired by prominent politicians telling them "We are never going t…

I've recapped the depths of last summer's BLM/antifa violence in previous threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25667848 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25691407 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25671284 Objectively, the summer's riots (as opposed to the more numerous peaceful protests) caused more deaths, injuries, and property damage. At the same time, the assault on the capitol was an unprecedente…

ooOOOOOoooo a video of a molotov cocktail, some people standing around and shouting, and a fake guillotine with a plastic blade, very scary.

That's totally the same as invading the center of government decked out in illegal guns and armor while most of the line of succession is there, chanting your intention to murder them while breaking down doors, stealing government laptops, building a gallows to hang the politicians you don't like with, dragging police officers outside to beat them to death, all the while declaring the start of a new civil war, and while sympathetic insiders feed them real-time information about the location of the politicians you intend to kill, etc etc etc.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by syops »

whimsicalism wrote: post #435
liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

By that standard, Instagram is a propaganda weapon. It both: a. pays popular users b. Puts warnings on political issues, like statements that Biden's crime bill contributed to mass incarceration [0] [0] https://twitter.com/ben_awareness/status/1339293381625864195

You've made an argument that Instagram engages in some form of advancing certain viewpoints. You have not demonstrated that this is extensive and that Instagram enforces ideological conformity or that Instagram actively pays people to engage in said advancement of political agendas.

There appears to be quite a difference between what Instagram does and what Parler does. The two do not appear to be comparable.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by ErikVandeWater »

liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

I don't see in either of those threads evidence that the moderation is one-sided.

And a social media company paying the users that create the most content? Dastardly!

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by themaninthedark »

jrobn wrote: post #427
gwbas1c wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a surprising amount of insecure code in the wild; and naive engineers who are willingly ignorant in their security practices. I'd assume that Parler's engineers motivations had more to do with politics than providing a secure platform for protecting dissidents under duress. (Or, if we look at the history of a recent major war, the mediocre engineers working for the other side thought they were the good guys.)

Bingo. They most likely didn’t care. It was all a means to an end. I would be combing this data to see if any active users that were inciting a call to violence are employees or contractors of say: Epoch Times, Members of Congress or their staff, members of law enforcement (especially capital police), select corporations or donors.

I would also be checking to see if they were employees or contractors of NY Times, CNN, known agents of China/Russia/Iran.

There are too many groups that are enjoying seeing the division of the American people.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

marcinzm wrote: post #206
varvar wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing isn't it? Principles, ethics.. all talk for a lot of people, situations like these show it. Watch them spin it as a good thing for humanity as a whole. Amazing.

Which side are you talking about in this?

I am reading this comment and I can't help but to chuckle. The reason I am saying is that can be read in several different ways and so does parent's post. We can just barely communicate with one another clearly so our proxy becomes 'who are you talking about exactly'.

We need better communication tools -- language seems to be failing us.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by Barrin92 »

liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

it's not surprising given that it's Mercer funded who basically make the Koch's look harmless.

People shouldn't be fooled and take this notion of 'free-speech' that is being advocated by these platforms at face value. They're not about genuine free exchange, they're funded by and organised by very well networked organisations who use them to further extremist political causes.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by bzb6 »

whimsicalism wrote: post #455
bzb6 wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did not say anything like that

I guess I'm confused as to the relevance to this thread. This person claimed that two attributes made Parler a "propaganda weapon", I noted that other major platforms have those same properties, so you tacked on another condition. Presumably this was all in an effort to say something along the lines of - "because of the unique situation Parler is in, these actions were permissible." No?

I’m one of the most right wing and pro free speech humans to ever set foot on this site. You are beating up the wrong person. I was merely replying to you regardless of what your parent comment said.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by vegcel »

crispywalrus wrote: post #447
whimsicalism wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that standard, Instagram is a propaganda weapon. It both: a. pays popular users b. Puts warnings on political issues, like statements that Biden's crime bill contributed to mass incarceration [0] [0] https://twitter.com/ben_awareness/status/1339293381625864195

Instagram doesn't claim to be a "free speech" platform. You have to only be mildly interested in it to see that it's all about "engagement" Parler explicitly claimed "free speech" as a goal

Zuckerberg: "Whether you like Facebook or not, we need to recognize what is at stake and come together to stand for free expression at this critical moment."

https://about.fb.com/news/2019/10/mark-zuckerberg-stands-for...

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

RoyTyrell wrote: post #64
thomastjeffery wrote: post #39

When you purposefully leak private data, you no longer get to hide behind the title "Security Researcher".

Would it be any better if it was sent to Wikileaks and published there?

> Would it be any better if it was sent to Wikileaks and published there?

Not really. If they had sent it to a journalistic organisation à la the Panama Papers, where e.g. curious peoples’ government IDs could be stripped and criminal activity highlighted, that would have be been different.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by sillysaurusx »

judge2020 wrote: post #329
surge wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you can't. There are private tweets, profiles, DMs and deleted messages/posts/tweets and for sure the profile data. This isn't a scrape of the site using a regular account, this is cracking admin accounts, creating their own admin accounts and using it to scrape private accounts, DMs, user information, and deleted content.

https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/parler-grab The details in the post are generally false - nowhere in this grabber (which is what was used to download the 70TB (or 56tb based on the tracker[0]) are admin credentials used to bypass access controls. There were no ACLs on the video and picture files, so anyone could wget them without issue. 0: https://tracker.archiveteam.org/parler/

Someone went to prison for wget'ing ATT data. And people right here argued that when you create a script to do so, you're no longer using their intended functionality in good faith.
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